Ep. 15 - Capt. Travis Lovell : Reelin Good Charters | Dularge Fishing Guide
Miracles in Meat Podcast | Ep. 15 – Catching a Good Time with Capt. Travis Lovell
Reeling in Louisiana’s Best Fishing with Reelin’ Good Charters
In this episode of Miracles in Meat, Shane Thibodaux sits down with Capt. Travis Lovell, a seasoned fishing guide and owner of Reelin’ Good Charters, to talk about the world-class fishing of Bayou Dularge, Louisiana.
Capt. Travis has spent a lifetime fishing these marshes, bayous, lakes, and open waters, guiding anglers from across the country to experience redfish and speckled trout fishing at its finest. Since 2008, he’s been running Reelin’ Good Charters, but he still fishes many of the same spots he explored as a kid in the early ’80s.
Inside This Episode:
🎣 How Capt. Travis turned his passion for fishing into a career
🌊 The challenges and rewards of running a charter business in South Louisiana
🐟 What makes Bayou Dularge one of the best fisheries on the Gulf Coast
🏝 The beauty of Louisiana’s estuaries, wildlife, and rich outdoor culture
Why You Should Listen:
Whether you're a die-hard fisherman, a first-timer looking to hook a big catch, or just someone who loves Louisiana’s great outdoors, this episode is packed with insights, adventure, and plenty of fishing wisdom.
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Transcript:
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You're listening to the Miracles in Meat Podcast. I'm Shane Thibodeau,
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the fourth generation butcher at one of the oldest meat markets in the world.
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My great-grandfather started this business by slaughtering one cow or pig at
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a time and selling the cuts door-to-door on horse and buggy.
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Today, our products were enjoyed across the globe. I will attempt to give you
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some insight as to how we got here and explore the challenges we've had along the way.
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At Bourgeois, our mission is to preserve our heritage generation after generation
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through legendary Cajun flavors and the development of relationships, not customers.
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Since 1891, Bourgeois has maintained age-old culinary traditions that fueled
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the South Louisiana lifestyle.
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Over the past 133 years, our Cajun products have gained global recognition,
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and for tens of thousands of
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folks around the world, the Bourgeois Cajun Lady logo is a symbol of home.
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Today, the fourth-generation butchers sit at the nine-foot maple block with
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loyal customers to discuss the adventures, skills, and passions that guide each of their legacies.
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These conversations will become priceless resources for future generations of any industry.
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This is our way of maintaining the spirit, purpose, and traditions of our lost
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arts in the world of change.
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133 years, four generations. We're just getting started.
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I always cross a thin line All right, Travis Lovell.
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Let's do this first. I'd like to ask everyone that comes on the show this same question.
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What's your first experience with the meat market or any of our products?
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So I think years ago,
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I worked in the construction field and did project management and sales guys
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and people that came on the job or would bring jerky or cheese or whatever it was to these sites.
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And, you know, I grew up pretty much in Houma, so I didn't really know about
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bourgeois and Thibodeau, you know, until all of a sudden I got this amazing
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beef jerky one day and I'm like, man, where'd this come from?
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And anyways, long story short, you know, ended up going there and getting my
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own and the man still doing it to the day.
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So when you walked into that building, what was your first, what was the first
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thing you remember thinking?
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First, first thought is, wow, what a cool place. You know, a lot of things going.
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I mean, there were girls packing jerky, packing boudin, a little bit of everything going.
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But super cool place to be right on the bayou side. You know,
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I mean, the traffic was going outside. I mean, it was just, it was busy. It's buzzing.
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Buzzing, buzzing. But man. Was it intimidating?
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Not really. All right. A lot of people, it's so hard because we grew up,
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you know, we grew up around it and it's just always been a home sort of to us.
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So it's so hard to understand what it looks like from an outsider's perspective,
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you know, first time or hundredth time, it's so hard to know what you see,
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like what you see when you come in. And I do it a lot.
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I go outside a lot or almost every time I check the mail, almost every time
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when I turn around, I come in through the front door.
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And a lot of times I just, I just pretend I've never been here and I just look
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at it and I see who's, you know, who's that person. I wonder what they're doing.
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I wonder what they're doing. What's over here. I try to do that every time to
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just like unfamiliarize myself and just see if anything happens,
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you know, like sometimes you
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see something and you're like, that box is in a weird spot or whatever,
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or that, that thing could be shifted that way, or that needs to be thrown into the body,
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whatever, whatever needs to happen.
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Pretty neat though to see you know all all
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the pieces coming together to make one puzzle you
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know that was pretty cool you got somebody that's cutting steaks you got somebody
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that's weighing sausage or boudin somebody checking them out clients coming
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in you know but but all to make one puzzle of badass it's cool man it's cool
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when you see customers that know each other which is it's just so common.
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A lot of times like that's our entertainment because we're doing the same stuff
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every day like it's we're making the same sausage every day we vacuum packing
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the same stuff so like a lot of times the fun is like when you know one of our
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salesman customers comes in and,
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he's bullshitting with one of his best buddies that he hadn't seen in
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a while and like we get to kind of see it you know yeah so
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that's so cool but yeah to be in that line
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and to have the the buzz of
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the other side the counter is one thing but when they're both popping like
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when you come in for a holiday or something and there's
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the doors constantly opening and closing cars are
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pulling up it makes it very exciting yeah it's so
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cool it's busy you know beef jerky's uh booming yeah it's
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it's a good thing and and hey look you know what
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a what a testament to for business to
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be that busy you know it's a good product it is good
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stuff and it's so it's so
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much better of a feeling to sell something that you really really
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know is good that way when when they
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don't want it or they don't like it then you can just assume they're stupid
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and that's honestly how i feel and i'll say i'll say it to someone if i offer
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you this piece of beef jerking you say you don't like it i just you don't like
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i don't respect your opinion anymore because it's good you vegetarian Yeah.
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There are things, there are things that I'm not going to push on you like that,
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but let's say the beef jerky, I'm going to say, you don't know what you're talking about.
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Best I ever had. And look, the people I bring it to, they say the same.
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And same, you know, when I, when I introduce it to somebody,
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I'm like, you gotta have this.
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Like, if you go and buy that place, you gotta get this. It's not, it's not like a baby.
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It don't matter what it costs. You gotta get it. And you'll thank me later.
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Makes a great gift, too. We got a lot of folks that that's the only,
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they just purchase it for gifts. They don't even need it.
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They just know that if they need to get someone something, that's what they're getting.
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Yeah, and what awesome capability to be able to vacuum pack it and have it for
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a little while, you know? Mm-hmm.
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Not a huge shelf life, you know? And we got guys like you sending it up to wherever,
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Alaska and Texas and getting it all over the country.
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And that's awesome. Like, man, we, we just, we love seeing people that that's
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the, like Christmas is coming up.
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They got their buddy in California. That's the first thing to think about is us.
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Like first thing to think about is up jerky. Easy. How cool is that? Done.
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That's cool. You know, it's amazing.
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When, when, when I bring it to people on the boat, you know,
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I don't bring it every day, but I might bring some sticks or something that
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I've had made from antelope or something wild that I've killed.
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But man, people, you know, just the smoke taste, it's the same smoke every day.
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I know how you guys do it. I mean, I just took a tour of the place.
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I mean, what a beautiful new facility and a hell of a smoke room.
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But the smoke is the same every single time.
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Yep. It's a process. It's not easy. It's consistent. It's not easy.
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And it's not the easy way.
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It's not the efficient way. It's not the cost productive way.
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But it's the best way. Yeah, it's what works. Yes, it's the best way.
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Yeah, when you find it, you stick to it. Yep.
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Let's get into a little bit about uh personal stuff
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where'd you grow up and what'd you do leading up
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to here well i grew up in homa uh
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the majority of my life still had
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my feet and hands in the bayou as well you know
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skip out days in high school i was still going to do large
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and fish or whatever it was but i
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grew up in homa and you know always
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fished and hunted uh down in the do large area dude we we grew up in do large
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as well my uncle john that has a smokehouse yeah he has a camp he's like the
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last he was say the last camp with power i think now none of them have power
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right none of them that's right but he was he was right there before the day before that dam,
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and was that voss yeah voss canal yeah he's right he's right before that dam that goes to voss,
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and that was some of the best memories of my life is
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going there and just being a boy just in
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a pierog catching whatever we could put our hands on
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and we'd stay up all night long you know
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dip dip netting crabs at the end of the dock until four i always say this when
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you when you cross the bridge the doularge bridge is a big old bridge and we
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usually leave all the rules at foot of that thing so uh when you get down to
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the bottom of it you know hey let life be life.
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And, okay, college? Yeah, so I didn't start college until a little bit later in life.
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I started working just right out of high school doing project management.
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I worked for the state for a while, and I decided that I would pursue civil engineering.
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And I went to Nichols for a couple years and decided that I just,
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as much as I liked it, I didn't like it.
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And I just, I really, I really didn't want to work for the man.
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And so I decided that I would, I would venture out and, you know,
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fishing was something I always wanted to do.
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I always had the skills to do it. I had the tools to do it, but I didn't know
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the business side of it, you know?
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And so finally in 2008, I decided that I was going to not go to college anymore
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and I was going to start a business.
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And, you know, at the end of the day, again, I didn't really know what I was going to do.
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You know, but, but it was something that I wanted to pursue.
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And so I'm going to stop you. I know you're a big hunter as well.
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Correct. You bring us tons of game. I was going to say deer,
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but let's just call it game.
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Let's say when you were in high school or college, were you leaning more towards,
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did you like fishing more, hunting more, same, can't take either of them away?
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I probably was, I probably did a little bit of both.
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I didn't start hunting until a
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little later in life. I think I killed my first deer. I was 18 years old.
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So that being said, you know, I had duck hunted a few times and the deer hunt,
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the first time I ever went deer hunt, I shot a doe.
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And I was now a deer hunter, you know, which, and it was something I enjoyed.
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I mean, I loved the hell out of it at the time. I'm like, man,
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why am I just getting into this now?
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You know, of course I fished my whole life. My dad took me, my grandfather took
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me. It was a big thing in our family.
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You know, but at the end of the day, I think I probably would lean a little
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bit of both. Once I started hunting, I liked hunting and I liked fishing.
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You know, now that I fish for a living, I probably lean a little more on the
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hunting side, which is why you see more.
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You want whatever you don't ask.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that's kind of. You hunt recreationally.
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Yeah. Fish professionally. Fish professionally, hunt recreationally.
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And try to hunt as much as I can. And maybe when you get a little older,
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you can swap. Yeah, we'll see. Might have to. We'll see how that works.
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And all right, what's the name of your charter company? Yeah,
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so Reeling Good Charters is the name of my business.
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This year makes 17 years. Like I said, I started in 2008 and just started chipping at the block.
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You know, man, my goal at the time was if I could fish four times a month.
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That was a start, you know, and then you rate, you reach those four times.
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And then it was like, well, now I'm fishing four times a week.
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And then, you know, the, the things that you were doing.
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So I was doing that project and, you know, project management and so forth.
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Well, you started seeing the fishing overtake that.
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So at some point I had to make a decision of, Hey, I'm going to just go into this. Mm-hmm.
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Was it making, you mean it was making more sense financially or just in your
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heart, that's what you felt?
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I think in my heart is what I felt, but the demand was there for business.
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Was Doolarge popping with Charter back then? There was a few, you know.
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Who's like the old timers out there? Yeah, Bill Lake.
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Bill Lake. Yeah, Bill Lake. He's a little friend of mine, you know,
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and look, took me under his wing in business. That's how I started networking.
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He was like your mentor? Yeah.
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And I started networking with him and look, I owe a lot of appreciation to him
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just for the initial, hey, this guy worked with us.
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He's one of our team. Now, how does that work? Are you like in the club?
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Are you like in their club? Yeah, it's kind of a clique. Or it's more or less,
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we approve of you doing your own thing?
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Or is it more of you're with us?
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Yeah, I think it's kind of umbrella. you know yeah it's a it's a it's probably
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just a respect yeah we do things as a group.
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You know if if if you eat we eat and that's kind of how it was you know we you know we all had our,
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agreeances of hey how we would operate business and what we would do what we
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wouldn't do you know as far as you know i wouldn't work for him and sell his
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guy t-shirts for really good charters,
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And I didn't expect for him to work for me and sell Bill Lake t-shirts or whatever it was.
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But we had all those understandings. And again, as business just continued to
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grow, I mean, dude, it's amazing. And I still tell my wife this to the day is
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like the demand for fishing.
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No matter what we've been through, I mean, the COVID, if the oil spill,
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oil spills, the oil field, all these things, You know, when it,
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when it starts affecting people's money, people are still going fishing, which is awesome.
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I think it says a lot about Louisiana. What a cool ass place that we live in.
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Yeah. Hardheaded, huh? Yeah. Hardheaded, but man, we got good fishing.
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Now some are, some are doing it for food. Some are going fishing because it's
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fun. No matter the consequences. Right. Yeah. A little bit of both.
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Man. So you've seen a lot in 17 years. You've, you know, I, maybe not you,
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but I kind of forget about the oil spill. You know, but...
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Commercial fishermen or a charter charter guide i
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bet they don't they don't forget about it
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it was monumental you know you know at the end of the day i was just a couple
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years in the business for for myself and i was lucky that i still was kind of
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relying on the project management as well so when the spill did happen i still
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did have a paycheck but there were some people that didn't You know,
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and we made it through it and we were fortunate in a do-large area where I fish, we didn't have any oil.
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It might've saw a little sheen here or there, but, you know,
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we got a lot of backwater, a lot of marsh.
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I think if that oil would've got in places like that, it'd have been stuff they
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could never, ever clean up.
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Years, yeah. I mean, just, it wouldn't even made sense what they had to probably
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done to get it out of there.
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But yeah, I mean, a lot of people remember about it.
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Definitely a big speed bump and glad it's over hope to not have another one.
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And all right let's let's get in a little more about
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like making the making the jump just some thoughts and feelings of when you
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actually did that pulling the plug so for me you know one thing i always appreciated
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about louisiana is we got a cool ass place here you know people come from all
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over the world to fish here,
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to fish, fish that we have that they can't get.
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You can't go to Colorado and catch a redfish because people love to come here
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and catch a redfish or a speckled trout or a sheep's head or a flounder or whatever
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fish somebody wants to go and take a look at.
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And, you know, in my mind, and I kind of take for granted living here is what a cool place we have.
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You know like people come here for that
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specifically we grew up here i know
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i mean like it doesn't make too much sense we want to go fishing we hook up
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to the boat and 25 minutes later we in the
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lake somewhere fishing you know and you do take for granted you know things
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like gators yeah like i remember talking to guys you know that we met some guys
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from colorado that had farms and stuff they will on a dime trade you go and
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elk hunt their private property
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to come catch an alligator.
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Yeah. You know, like to us, that sounds so silly, like you're getting ripped off.
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But to them, it's special. Even to see an alligator. To see it.
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Yeah, I just want to look at it. Hey, Cap, do you think we got a chance to see an alligator today?
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I had a group. This was just last year. We did two, we had three days fishing,
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and the first two days we had a chance.
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This group was here for three days and the first two days we go and we smacked
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the fish. And these guys are from Tennessee.
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And on the third day, well, if it ain't broke, you don't fix it.
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So we going back to the same spot, we smacked the fish two days in a row.
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Well, these guys drove a long way and really hadn't seen much of our area.
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And those guys said, hey, man, we brought beers and we kind of just want to go on a little cruise.
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I'm like a booze cruise. He's like, yeah, let's do a booze cruise.
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He said, man, we want to see an alligator. You think we can see an alligator?
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I said, how many do you want to see?
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I'll let you touch one. So, man, look, and how close you want to get.
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So, at one point, I mean, instead of going fishing, we really just went on a
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booze cruise for those guys.
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Man, it was a special moment for those guys because they got to take the cameras
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out to show a video back to their kid in Tennessee.
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Hey, look what we saw, you know, 10 alligators in one spot. And you got a little break.
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And I got a break. Didn't even have to clean fish that day.
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Didn't sweat. Didn't sweat. We rode, we put the tunes on, man.
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It was a, it was a, it was a Cajun cruise, you know?
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And look, I've been fortunate over 17 years that the majority of my clients
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aren't here to fill the freezer, you know, but to, but to take home a memory,
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you know, and to take home that picture or that, hey, I'm fishing with my dad.
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And just last week I had a guy and his father's dad was 90 years old.
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How many, how many fishing trips do you have left with him? You know,
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and how many does he have of you? He might outlive you. You never know.
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But, you know, a 90 year old guy on the boat and look, we had him reeling in
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redfish and talking smack to his son.
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And man, what a cool trip. But, you know, I've been fortunate that the majority
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of my people weren't here to fill a freezer.
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Now we do. I mean, that's that's the business that we in. You know, we are we do catch fish.
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I had a lady from Alaska that I would fish, and she says, you know,
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back home in Alaska, we're serial killers.
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We keep on here and there. She said, but you guys are mass murderers.
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Y'all catch a lot of fish, and y'all keep a lot of fish.
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I would have to bend her arm to keep a limit or to keep, you know, some stuff to eat.
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But anyways, man, what a cool area we have just to have the abundance of seafood.
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It is special. And you do, we all take it for granted, I think.
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And look, not just fish. I mean, a fishing business is what I'm in,
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but man, I mean, you got crawfish, you got shrimp, you got crabs, you got oysters.
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Good stuff. You got all these things that you're seeing people working while you're fishing.
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You're seeing oyster right on the side of you. Yeah. The good stuff.
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Mm-hmm. You know, or you see the trawl boats shrimping and the,
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you know, they're coming in and they're unloading thousands and thousands of pounds of shrimp.
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What a cool place. To know that all of our product is going all over the United States.
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And they need it. And they need it. Yeah. Because they can't get it.
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Kind of like bourgeois. You jerk.
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You need it. Just like the golf.
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Do you remember your first trip? I remember my first trip. I do.
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I had three guys. I don't recall where they were from, but I had three guys
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with me and man, I was nervous. Did you line it up?
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I actually worked for somebody else. I worked for another guide and it was kind
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of just like a, the chute's going to open and here you go.
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And was it like a, Hey, tomorrow you're on? No, we had a little,
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we had a little bit of notice.
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I knew what was going to go on. And I mean, we all had a game plan of where
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we're going to go and what we're going to do.
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Of course, growing up fishing there. I mean, it wasn't like I had to go find
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a fishing spot, you know, I mean, I knew what I was going to do.
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But, you know, again, like at the end of the day, I got a little bit,
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I had a little anxiety about it just because, Hey.
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This is the first- The pressure's on. Yeah, pressure's on, you know.
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What if they cool? What if they not cool? What if we only catch hardheads?
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What if it's just Catfish City, USA?
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Would you say you have a style? And if so, what is it? Yeah, I think I have a style.
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And, you know, I think for me, business is just, it really should be a fun time.
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Yeah, we're here to catch fish. Yeah, we'll most probably catch fish.
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But at the end of the day, you want people to be, you want it to be a special time for those people.
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You know, I get people that drive in a long way, people that fly in from a long
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way, Australia, Africa, Canada.
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I mean, like we see people from across the globe, not just United States.
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But man, if somebody catches a lot of fish and has a shitty time doing it,
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it's really not that much fun, you know?
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And I learned shortly after, after starting business, I learned that A, I can't make fish bite.
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And then B, when fish are biting, I can't make somebody catch one.
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There are some people that they
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never fished in their life and probably couldn't catch a turd in a bucket.
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However, if they caught three is the most they ever caught.
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So while you think it's a bad day to that person, they caught the most fish
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they ever caught in their life.
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All right. Here's a good question. Sure. Before we started, you were talking,
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we were talking to music and you were saying you can look at a drum kit and
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you can tell if you're going to like the guy's music or not,
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just by the way the kit looks.
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Yeah, sure. Can you tell an angler when you see him?
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Uh, When he's walking up in the morning, what are some things you're going to
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see and you're going to go, this is going to be a knucklehead?
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I truly, this is a true story.
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I had someone that booked a trip and it was a female and a surprise trip.
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And the guy shows up with her. They show up that morning of the trip.
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And of course we do inshore, saltwater fishing, speckled trout, redfish, black drum.
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This guy shows up and he's got two big offshore reels.
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And I'm talking about like tuna fishing. Yeah. Like paper plate size reels. And I'm thinking.
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50 watts. Like, am I really getting punked here? Like, I thought I was getting punked.
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And so I get out and I shake his hand and he's like, man, how far you guys been catching the tuna?
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Shit. I'm like, we're not going tuna fishing. We just do canned tuna, buddy.
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Only the can only the can i think bill lake
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set you up on that he might have he might have but look so so i'm
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like well we're not going tuna fishing you know
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he's like i said we're going red fishing he says yeah yeah yeah red red snapper
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huh and i'm thinking oh man what where did this go wrong now granted man super
00:24:18.271 --> 00:24:22.651
nice girl that booked the trip but man what's really going on here so we get
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to fishing of course we we did go red fishing not red snapper fishing or tuna fishing,
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but kind of one of those, you know, it's like, man, you thought like,
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right. How do I fix this next time?
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Well, where did this one go wrong? You know, but that was, yeah, yeah. Red snaps.
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That was one that kind of went, you know, when he walked up,
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I'm like, I don't know, you know, this ended up being a super nice guy, super.
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I mean, they're repeat clients of mine, but in the beginning he was very confused
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of what the hell we were going to do.
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And we caught fish. So It was a good day, but, you know, man,
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we see people of all sorts, obviously.
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People, you know, we get fly fishermen. We get people who have never fished before. We get avids.
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So you'll get a guy that'll come down with a fly rod and he just says, put me on the fish.
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I got my, I know how to fly fish. I've got my gear. Put me on them.
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Yeah. And look. How common is that?
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We see it. I probably run about 10 trips, maybe a year. What about? I bring a fly stick.
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And I encourage it. Hey, look, I encourage if you want to bring your own rod
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and reel, you know, whatever you're comfortable with.
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So what's the split between, let's say, like avid anglers, they just need to
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be put on the fish and they just don't have access to a boat versus more like
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one time or, you know, it's my fifth trip ever in my life.
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Those guys, like, I kind of know how to fish, but I really don't.
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You're going to need to help me all day long.
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What's like your split on that? For the majority, I think most people are listeners, which is great.
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So if somebody hadn't fished before, those are the people that are like tuned
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into you. Like, hey, how do I- They almost learn more.
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Yeah. When the rod and reel is upside down and they're reeling backwards.
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Like, hey, how do I work this thing? You know?
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And, you know, at that point, that's when the tutorials come in and you got
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to, I mean, of course, look, those aren't always the easiest days, you know?
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But those are sometimes the most rewarding because again, somebody might've
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never caught a fish before and they caught one or they caught 1,000.
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So that's a win, you know?
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However, you know, you do get the guy who is a avid bass fisherman and he shows
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up in the Booyah jersey and, you know, just sponsors all over the place and
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he's just there to catch some fish.
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Over the years, I've kind of sifted the flower. I'll say that.
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You know, I've been fortunate that the referral business has been, like, really good to me.
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So, like, if Joe fishes with me and Joe's really cool and he sends Mike down
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with me, well, Mike's probably pretty cool, too. Yeah, I guess so.
00:27:04.035 --> 00:27:07.655
Yeah. So, you know, and my claim to fame is ducks fly with ducks.
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So, when somebody refers somebody, you know, I mean, chances are it's going
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to be a like-minded person.
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And so I would think at this point, you know, I see a lot of avid fishermen
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and those people are usually coming like corporate groups or,
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you know, whatever. But I still
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see a good bit of people who've never done this before in their lives.
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You know, it might be a ladies group. It might be all men, might be mixed couples, whatever it is.
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Hey, we want to go fishing. What do we do? And you can tell those calls instantly
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because they don't know what they're booking.
00:27:40.947 --> 00:27:43.947
It's like, hey, somebody told me to call you. We don't know,
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but if they said to call you, you the guy.
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Yeah, that's awesome. That's what you want. I had a call.
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This was a couple of years back. And this lady says, hey, I'm calling to book
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a fishing trip for my husband's birthday.
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And his best friend told me you the guy to go to.
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I'm like, okay, yeah, let me tell you. She said, I have no idea what I'm booking.
00:28:04.547 --> 00:28:08.567
But, but he said, you the guy, you the guy. I'm like, all right,
00:28:08.667 --> 00:28:10.047
well, let me first tell you about me.
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Like send you my website. Like,
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I don't want you to book something just because somebody told you to.
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And she says, well, if this guy says you the guy, you probably the guy.
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I said, well, if you don't mind me asking, like, who's your husband's best friend?
00:28:24.867 --> 00:28:27.707
And she stops and she says, Hank Williams Jr.
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And I'm like, as in Bo Cephas?
00:28:31.787 --> 00:28:32.967
Like that dude?
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She's like, don't hold that against us. I'm like, not at all. Are you kidding me?
00:28:37.807 --> 00:28:40.767
So Hank Williams Jr. told you to call me.
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Wow. Okay. So in the meantime, I get a text and it's from Jacob Landry, swamp people.
00:28:48.227 --> 00:28:51.467
And he says, hey, T, I just gave your number to Hank Williams Jr.
00:28:52.747 --> 00:28:57.347
Don't know if it's him that's going to call you or not, but be expecting an Alabama number to call.
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I said, well, I'm on the phone with him right now, you know,
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but thank you. Check that out. So, you know, referrals, man, it's huge.
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Obviously, if somebody says to go, they go.
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And I've been fortunate for that and thankful too. But because over the years,
00:29:12.447 --> 00:29:15.987
like what I was saying is, you know, you sift the flower and it's,
00:29:16.107 --> 00:29:20.707
you know, you see some people come back and then you see maybe one group you
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might not see for four or five years.
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And then all of a sudden you get a call back and it's that same group.
00:29:26.310 --> 00:29:27.710
Typically, though, I mean, at
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this point in business, I'm probably seeing the same folks a lot. Right.
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You know, this is what it is.
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And I'm fortunate for that because now at this stage of the game,
00:29:39.210 --> 00:29:40.550
you're fishing with family, really.
00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:43.910
Yeah. Friends and family. Long time. These people want to see pictures of your
00:29:43.910 --> 00:29:46.710
kids. These people want to know, hey, what you killed.
00:29:47.070 --> 00:29:49.190
How's hunting season? Come hunting with us.
00:29:49.710 --> 00:29:53.630
Like these people, you've built relationships. And I'm sure you see it on this
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side of the fence, too. You know.
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Yep. the same people that come and buy beef jerky or you
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watch you watch the you know do you
00:30:01.150 --> 00:30:04.310
watch a customer come in for 10
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years with their little kid and now their
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kid's pulling up in the truck yeah it's like whoa yeah
00:30:10.390 --> 00:30:13.450
no doubt that's crazy i personally got some some kids
00:30:13.450 --> 00:30:16.290
that i saw they might have been seven eight years old i
00:30:16.290 --> 00:30:19.190
saw those kids catch their first fish same thing now they
00:30:19.190 --> 00:30:22.390
come in on their own with friends bachelor parties and
00:30:22.390 --> 00:30:25.310
yeah so forth you do a lot of bachelor parties i'm sure yeah we
00:30:25.310 --> 00:30:28.050
do a good we do a fair amount but man makes
00:30:28.050 --> 00:30:30.870
you feel old when you see these kids that caught their first fish what you're
00:30:30.870 --> 00:30:33.670
now coming and booking and paying on their own they're getting
00:30:33.670 --> 00:30:37.370
married yeah it's pretty cool life goes goes fast
00:30:37.370 --> 00:30:43.350
i did a i haven't done much charter fishing but i did do one for my bachelor
00:30:43.350 --> 00:30:48.450
party in toledo bend it was a soccer trip yeah we went with a he was a bass
00:30:48.450 --> 00:30:53.930
master hall of famer i forgot to get a allen something i don't know I wanted
00:30:53.930 --> 00:30:55.830
to say Gary Allen, but I think he's a musician.
00:30:57.510 --> 00:31:03.950
Anyway, we had like nine guys on two boats. And I thought it was the funniest thing ever.
00:31:04.570 --> 00:31:09.210
If you didn't do exactly what he said, you wasn't catching shit.
00:31:09.590 --> 00:31:12.850
So like all of us have fished our whole life.
00:31:13.390 --> 00:31:17.910
Like we want to cast over there. He's like, drop it right here.
00:31:19.109 --> 00:31:23.169
Count to three, flip your bail, do this, count to four, and then pull,
00:31:23.349 --> 00:31:24.569
and you're going to have a fish on it.
00:31:24.769 --> 00:31:28.209
If you didn't do that, you wasn't catching a fish. Isn't that funny how that works? Yeah.
00:31:28.569 --> 00:31:32.669
So how many, tell me some stories about guys you're trying to teach,
00:31:32.929 --> 00:31:37.189
everyone's catching in the boat but them, because they're not doing what you say.
00:31:37.329 --> 00:31:43.109
Well, I'll tell you first, I think rule number one is the captain is always right.
00:31:43.589 --> 00:31:47.669
Rule number two, if in doubt, refer back to rule number one.
00:31:48.729 --> 00:31:51.769
You got to listen you know i mean look and and you
00:31:51.769 --> 00:31:54.349
know everybody's trip is your own trip you know
00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:57.669
what you take home from it is what you what you
00:31:57.669 --> 00:32:02.509
put into it too you know but you know you you see people who are kind of in
00:32:02.509 --> 00:32:06.889
left field maybe casting the opposite way of where the reef is or where the
00:32:06.889 --> 00:32:12.409
rig is or the island or whatever it is and then sometimes that can work in your
00:32:12.409 --> 00:32:16.209
favor too I've had it to where, hey, we're catching fish on this one point.
00:32:16.509 --> 00:32:19.649
And I got one guy just totally in left field.
00:32:20.069 --> 00:32:24.829
And then before long, those fish are there and everybody's casting where that guy was.
00:32:25.029 --> 00:32:29.029
And in your mind, you're thinking like, man, I know I told this guy like 50
00:32:29.029 --> 00:32:31.349
times now to fish are on this side.
00:32:31.489 --> 00:32:34.909
And then all of a sudden you're eating crow because he's catching them where
00:32:34.909 --> 00:32:36.989
he was randomly throwing.
00:32:38.169 --> 00:32:41.469
But, you know, I mean, hey, everybody's teachable. Again, a lot of people,
00:32:41.589 --> 00:32:45.929
when they come here and they hadn't done this before, those people are listeners.
00:32:46.249 --> 00:32:50.429
So it works in your favor. You know, you kind of give a little instructional
00:32:50.429 --> 00:32:52.629
and hope that they take it.
00:32:54.409 --> 00:33:02.109
Earlier, I asked about your style. Are you like a run and gun type of guy?
00:33:02.329 --> 00:33:05.229
I guess you kind of have to be like that, especially with Trout,
00:33:05.329 --> 00:33:06.589
right? Trout, you have to...
00:33:08.207 --> 00:33:12.207
If not now, then move, right? You got to move quick. Is that true? It depends.
00:33:12.947 --> 00:33:15.167
There are some days where I've probably been the most patient.
00:33:15.467 --> 00:33:21.087
I've sweated a spot out just because I knew that on Monday through Thursday, they were there.
00:33:21.227 --> 00:33:24.227
You show up on Friday, you know they're there.
00:33:24.847 --> 00:33:29.987
Just got to find out what. Maybe they just not eaten yet. Maybe it's 1030 and
00:33:29.987 --> 00:33:32.447
they're going to eat and maybe they're gone.
00:33:33.067 --> 00:33:36.227
You know, and look, sometimes, you know, when you're running and gunning,
00:33:36.427 --> 00:33:37.887
that's when the fish are biting.
00:33:38.207 --> 00:33:41.867
And so you kind of got to straddle the fence there.
00:33:42.427 --> 00:33:46.247
I probably, out of the group of guys that I fish, I probably am one that'll
00:33:46.247 --> 00:33:49.307
sweat a spot out a little longer than somebody else.
00:33:50.067 --> 00:33:53.047
Just because you've seen it produce more, enough times. Yeah,
00:33:53.047 --> 00:33:55.307
I mean, you just know that spot. You grew up fishing that spot.
00:33:55.487 --> 00:33:58.287
It might not look the same, but them rocks are still down there.
00:33:58.647 --> 00:34:02.507
And them fish still go there every year to spawn or, you know,
00:34:02.567 --> 00:34:05.867
to live or whatever it is. But, you know, at the end of the day,
00:34:06.007 --> 00:34:09.187
like, you know that, you know, that, you know, those fish are right there.
00:34:09.487 --> 00:34:13.327
Now, again, that goes back to, I can't make fish bite.
00:34:13.747 --> 00:34:16.967
You know, there are days where those fish could have been a thousand of them
00:34:16.967 --> 00:34:18.427
down there and they weren't eaten.
00:34:19.007 --> 00:34:21.427
So you got to go find something else and do something else.
00:34:22.587 --> 00:34:27.007
That's the benefit, I guess, of being a guide and being on the water as much
00:34:27.007 --> 00:34:33.747
as you are, is you do, you have a plan B and a C and a D.
00:34:33.987 --> 00:34:39.007
I mean, look, there's sometimes you pull out all the stops and what you got
00:34:39.007 --> 00:34:42.427
is what you got on fish. Are you still...
00:34:43.802 --> 00:34:49.302
Are you still interested in like finding new spots? Oh, yeah, man. Look.
00:34:49.742 --> 00:34:54.202
Or do you have your spots and that's your spots? I think a magician can't always
00:34:54.202 --> 00:34:56.122
have enough tricks. You know what I mean?
00:34:57.182 --> 00:35:00.882
Sometimes, like I said, you pull out all those stops and you need that last,
00:35:01.362 --> 00:35:03.802
hey, I never fished here before, but it looks good.
00:35:04.102 --> 00:35:10.002
Let's try it. And then you bang them there. Are you a guy that'll get on Google
00:35:10.002 --> 00:35:12.302
Earth and do some scouting like that?
00:35:12.302 --> 00:35:14.502
Or you'd rather ride around the boat and look and see it? No,
00:35:14.602 --> 00:35:20.762
I mean, chances are, as busy as I am now, if I'm in a boat, I'm working.
00:35:20.902 --> 00:35:25.022
So I don't really like to experiment, I guess.
00:35:25.522 --> 00:35:29.022
Now, look, there are some days I'm like, hey, look, we've searched high and low.
00:35:29.582 --> 00:35:33.642
We're going to try something different, you know, and we do something different. But, man, look.
00:35:33.822 --> 00:35:38.722
Now, do you tell them that or do you say, wait till y'all see this next spot,
00:35:38.782 --> 00:35:41.142
I'm going to put y'all on? I guess I'm going to have to take y'all to a good spot.
00:35:41.562 --> 00:35:44.642
Yeah. That's what you got to do. I mean, going back to Google,
00:35:44.802 --> 00:35:48.422
I mean, what a, what incredible technology to be able to look at Google and
00:35:48.422 --> 00:35:53.022
Onyx and, you know, have, have all these aerial photography places that,
00:35:53.222 --> 00:35:55.582
you know, some of the aerials are older.
00:35:55.642 --> 00:35:58.382
So you can see islands that might not be there anymore.
00:35:59.042 --> 00:36:02.922
Sometimes that water on the island might've been clear. So you can see the reefs
00:36:02.922 --> 00:36:05.542
that are there that you might not know about.
00:36:05.802 --> 00:36:10.442
It's just little places you put in your head to try. And then again, man.
00:36:11.890 --> 00:36:15.730
Every year, those fish do the same thing. It's just a big pinwheel,
00:36:15.910 --> 00:36:19.910
you know, of a circle of life where they're going to go and spawn,
00:36:20.090 --> 00:36:21.830
and then they'll come back in. All right.
00:36:22.370 --> 00:36:26.570
Teach me about that cycle. Yeah, so. Let's say trout. Let's stick with trout.
00:36:26.710 --> 00:36:29.390
So, let's say trout and like now, dead of the winter.
00:36:29.630 --> 00:36:33.370
You know, so those fish are trying to be far into the marsh.
00:36:33.750 --> 00:36:37.410
You know, they're coming and hunkering down for the wintertime,
00:36:37.530 --> 00:36:42.610
the cold weather. Now, granted, you know, this year we had the 10 inches of snow.
00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:47.090
Snow and Dularge froze. Yeah, frozen ice and all these things.
00:36:47.250 --> 00:36:51.850
And look, we have seen a fish kill, you know, but it's amazing that you,
00:36:51.970 --> 00:36:54.890
you know, you see as many fish as you did floating.
00:36:55.550 --> 00:37:01.250
And then you go and you strike out a limit of redfish or whatever it might be.
00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:06.310
But, you know, dead of the winter, those trout are, they're far in the marsh.
00:37:06.310 --> 00:37:11.590
As those shrimps start to do their thing and move out into the lakes,
00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:13.370
you'll see those trout follow into the lakes.
00:37:13.490 --> 00:37:17.190
That's usually, let's just say wintertime is noon. I'm sorry.
00:37:17.510 --> 00:37:19.430
Yeah, let's say high, you know, midnight.
00:37:20.690 --> 00:37:26.990
3 p.m. will be in springtime. So you'll see those fish move out into the lakes 3 p.m.
00:37:27.570 --> 00:37:32.810
That's April, May. Those fish are in pattern to go into the Gulf of Mexico.
00:37:33.170 --> 00:37:35.630
Let's say dead of the summer is 6.
00:37:36.570 --> 00:37:40.830
So those fish will spawn in the, in the Gulf and they'll stay there until the
00:37:40.830 --> 00:37:44.370
fall. Let's say fall is nine o'clock on a clock.
00:37:45.630 --> 00:37:48.310
That's going to be fall time. So they're back in the lakes again,
00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:51.650
colder it gets further in the marsh they get.
00:37:51.970 --> 00:37:56.330
So it's just one big pinwheel, 12 being dead of the winter.
00:37:57.306 --> 00:38:00.646
Spring being three and moving out into the lakes, six o'clock,
00:38:01.046 --> 00:38:07.066
you're in the gulf, back at nine, back into the lakes, moving back in and then back in wintertime.
00:38:07.466 --> 00:38:09.606
So it's amazing to see, though.
00:38:10.326 --> 00:38:13.726
It's hard to understand that until you see it. You know, I mean,
00:38:13.786 --> 00:38:18.826
it's just like a, you might be catching them in the lake for two weeks and then
00:38:18.826 --> 00:38:20.826
all of a sudden, there ain't a fish left in the lake.
00:38:21.146 --> 00:38:24.066
There might be some stragglers, but. And what happens. Yeah,
00:38:24.066 --> 00:38:25.346
they've already made it to the coast.
00:38:25.346 --> 00:38:28.086
I was gonna I was gonna ask you
00:38:28.086 --> 00:38:31.166
this question I was gonna say what's the difference between
00:38:31.166 --> 00:38:34.006
a guide and a fisherman y'all both
00:38:34.006 --> 00:38:36.906
launch your boat at the same time what are
00:38:36.906 --> 00:38:39.646
you doing that he's not doing and then
00:38:39.646 --> 00:38:43.406
I answered it by you explaining that the guide
00:38:43.406 --> 00:38:46.366
understands this and he knows he's timed
00:38:46.366 --> 00:38:49.406
correctly the fisherman he went
00:38:49.406 --> 00:38:52.186
last month and he saw a boat in Lost
00:38:52.186 --> 00:38:55.106
Lake or he saw 10 boats in lost lake and then
00:38:55.106 --> 00:38:58.206
now he's finally getting to go fish two weeks later
00:38:58.206 --> 00:39:01.386
and he goes well there's a bunch of boats in lost lake i'm
00:39:01.386 --> 00:39:04.486
going to lost lake so he spends his whole morning in lost lake while
00:39:04.486 --> 00:39:08.586
y'all are in the gulf correct and it's they're always chasing yeah so they don't
00:39:08.586 --> 00:39:13.246
know this you know i always say time on the water is time on the water you know
00:39:13.246 --> 00:39:18.286
homework and you know being being fortunate enough to be able to fish eight
00:39:18.286 --> 00:39:21.566
days a week you know when is that busy you are,
00:39:21.786 --> 00:39:23.846
you see in those fish move.
00:39:24.526 --> 00:39:27.586
So you can, you can go to that same point and you catch them three,
00:39:27.686 --> 00:39:31.466
four days in a row and then, well, come Friday, well, they might just be a little
00:39:31.466 --> 00:39:38.086
bit closer to the coast and then you'll fish the coast seven, eight, 10 days a month.
00:39:38.226 --> 00:39:42.246
Just, it depends how, how long they hold up. Depends on weather conditions. Yeah.
00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:46.210
But when they finally make it out into the Gulf, they're not going anywhere
00:39:46.210 --> 00:39:48.990
for a couple months. I mean, they're staying there. They need that salinity.
00:39:49.250 --> 00:39:54.150
They like the sandy bottom, you know, the things that are needed to reproduce.
00:39:54.750 --> 00:39:57.670
So you'll see them fish out there for quite a bit.
00:39:58.130 --> 00:40:01.290
That being said, obviously, you know, in our area, that's open water.
00:40:01.430 --> 00:40:04.550
So if you got windy days, I mean, you probably be red fishing or,
00:40:04.570 --> 00:40:06.950
you know, doing something else where it's not rough.
00:40:07.430 --> 00:40:10.670
And then again, we get some people who are like, hey, man, we don't care how rough it is.
00:40:10.730 --> 00:40:15.430
That's what we want to go do. put a mouthpiece yeah yeah
00:40:15.430 --> 00:40:18.510
you get that mouthpiece and you uh you go to work you know
00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:21.410
and you you go living on the edge man that's one
00:40:21.410 --> 00:40:24.270
thing that's one cool thing about our coast too
00:40:24.270 --> 00:40:27.930
is you know you got places you can hide behind islands you can go to if the
00:40:27.930 --> 00:40:32.050
west fits windy you know so forth go to the east you can go to blast island
00:40:32.050 --> 00:40:36.570
or yeah hide behind something what's your like i don't know what's your territory
00:40:36.570 --> 00:40:42.170
like how how far east how far west are you like yeah probably last Last Island
00:40:42.170 --> 00:40:44.050
is probably the furthest I would go east.
00:40:44.550 --> 00:40:49.690
And really, you know, if I go there and then fish all south of Dularge and haven't
00:40:49.690 --> 00:40:52.290
caught anything, well, I'm in trouble at that point.
00:40:52.430 --> 00:40:54.810
But, you know, I mean, they ain't biting.
00:40:55.130 --> 00:40:58.410
And you got to go to a plan B where you, hey, it might be going soak a shrimp
00:40:58.410 --> 00:41:03.710
on a jig head for a redfish or a sheep's head or whatever it is to catch.
00:41:03.850 --> 00:41:07.090
And, you know, look, we talking about trout, but man, I get a lot of people
00:41:07.090 --> 00:41:10.710
who just want to go catch sheep's head. A hundred. Dude, it's huge.
00:41:11.190 --> 00:41:13.630
Yeah. You know, there's no size, there's no limit. They're starting to cane
00:41:13.630 --> 00:41:17.150
pole them now, I see. They're the best thing you could eat, you know,
00:41:17.230 --> 00:41:19.030
in my opinion. They're cool. They're great fish.
00:41:20.352 --> 00:41:22.972
And then I've had it where, you know, we go and catch a lemon,
00:41:23.192 --> 00:41:25.012
a speckled trout and one black drum.
00:41:25.352 --> 00:41:28.632
The guy's like, man, you know, those trout ain't good, but man, that drum was good.
00:41:29.132 --> 00:41:33.212
Right. You got a place we can go. Like, you know, we, different people want
00:41:33.212 --> 00:41:34.472
different things, you know?
00:41:34.552 --> 00:41:38.772
So we try to tailor our trips to what somebody truly wants.
00:41:39.152 --> 00:41:42.192
And what, and do you have, do you just talk to them on the phone beforehand
00:41:42.192 --> 00:41:43.812
and like, tell me what you really want?
00:41:44.352 --> 00:41:49.772
You know, going back to, to my clients, I'm kind of fortunate that my people were so easy.
00:41:50.252 --> 00:41:55.252
Man, you know, I say that meaning like, hey, Cap, whatever you think we got
00:41:55.252 --> 00:41:58.672
the best chance at, that's what we want to do. Yeah.
00:41:58.892 --> 00:42:02.992
You know, and look, there's some days it might be trout, you know,
00:42:03.052 --> 00:42:05.832
or it might be, hey, look, it's cold, it's windy.
00:42:06.052 --> 00:42:09.712
We got to go hide somewhere in a canal and it's going to be a redfish or,
00:42:10.132 --> 00:42:12.092
hey, it's going to be whatever we catch.
00:42:12.092 --> 00:42:16.052
You know, like, I mean, obviously if somebody, if somebody's traveling from
00:42:16.052 --> 00:42:20.332
Alaska to come, well, just cause it's 20 mile an hour winds doesn't mean that
00:42:20.332 --> 00:42:21.092
we're not going fishing.
00:42:21.892 --> 00:42:26.332
They traveled a long way. That's when the pressure's on. And that's when the pressure gets good.
00:42:26.452 --> 00:42:31.392
You know, you gotta, you gotta have that backup plan and prepare for a rainy
00:42:31.392 --> 00:42:32.492
day. Cause it's going to come.
00:42:33.132 --> 00:42:37.712
But, but anyways, you know, I've been fortunate that the majority of my clients
00:42:37.712 --> 00:42:40.932
are just like, Hey, whatever you think we got the best chance at,
00:42:41.032 --> 00:42:42.072
that's what we want to do.
00:42:42.692 --> 00:42:46.472
I had a group down and they come every year. It's a bunch of tobacco farmers
00:42:46.472 --> 00:42:50.572
from Tennessee and they come in the last couple, three days of the year.
00:42:50.892 --> 00:42:54.952
And these guys have a great trip on sheep's head and reds every year. It's cold.
00:42:55.392 --> 00:42:58.552
When the cold happens, those trout kind of get a little bit lethargic,
00:42:58.732 --> 00:43:02.232
but these guys are here for a meat haul. They love catching fish.
00:43:02.852 --> 00:43:04.352
Everybody's great fishermen. Yeah.
00:43:04.878 --> 00:43:08.378
And every year they've come, probably for the last six or seven years,
00:43:08.398 --> 00:43:10.158
we've just smashed the fish.
00:43:10.298 --> 00:43:15.898
Well, this year they come and it's like 80 degrees in the last couple of days of the year.
00:43:16.418 --> 00:43:20.278
And there was not a sheep's head to be found, not a redfish to be found,
00:43:20.278 --> 00:43:23.858
but we did catch the limits of speckled trout every day.
00:43:24.138 --> 00:43:27.318
And I had four or five boats, you know, that I networked with that were working
00:43:27.318 --> 00:43:30.178
for me and everybody caught speckled trout.
00:43:30.358 --> 00:43:33.938
But these guys were here for redfish and sheep's head. Now, granted,
00:43:34.038 --> 00:43:34.858
they weren't disappointed.
00:43:35.178 --> 00:43:39.118
It was just something they weren't used to. Normally, we're all suited up in
00:43:39.118 --> 00:43:42.278
bibs and jackets and so forth.
00:43:42.498 --> 00:43:45.018
And this year, we were in sharts and flip-flops.
00:43:45.578 --> 00:43:49.578
So it was just a different view for them this year.
00:43:49.738 --> 00:43:54.138
But, man, again, people come sometimes specifically for something,
00:43:54.418 --> 00:43:59.138
and we can make it happen. And then again, you know, most of the people just
00:43:59.138 --> 00:44:02.958
say, hey, whatever you think we got the best chance of doing, let's go have fun.
00:44:03.078 --> 00:44:06.838
You know, let's put some music on, show us Louisiana, you know,
00:44:06.958 --> 00:44:11.438
and, and, and really that's, you know, that's the heart of my business has always
00:44:11.438 --> 00:44:13.418
kind of just been memories over money.
00:44:13.718 --> 00:44:18.918
Like somebody goes home and with a good memory, like, man, they got it.
00:44:19.098 --> 00:44:21.758
Right. Like they got what they came here for, you know, it was a win,
00:44:21.938 --> 00:44:25.898
but, and, you know, for me, uh, again, uh.
00:44:26.818 --> 00:44:29.498
Who are some other cool people you met along the way?
00:44:31.092 --> 00:44:37.112
Man, I've been fortunate, again, going back to the referral business, I've met some cool cats.
00:44:38.132 --> 00:44:41.632
You know, if somebody, just like the Hank Williams Jr.
00:44:41.892 --> 00:44:45.972
Thing, you know, he didn't know who to call. I never fished Hank Williams Jr.
00:44:46.192 --> 00:44:49.632
And I hope, if you're listening, come on fishing.
00:44:50.392 --> 00:44:55.292
Tell me some stories, you know. But, you know, somebody of reputable status
00:44:55.292 --> 00:44:57.372
told him, just the dude you call.
00:44:57.632 --> 00:45:01.632
And he didn't waver. You know, he, this is the guy you call,
00:45:01.732 --> 00:45:04.532
he passed my name along, but, but man, you know,
00:45:05.272 --> 00:45:08.192
celebrity status, you see a few guys come,
00:45:08.832 --> 00:45:13.532
you know, obviously that the Jacob Landry and, and Troy Landry swamp people,
00:45:13.772 --> 00:45:17.572
those guys send everybody to me and they're friends of mine,
00:45:17.692 --> 00:45:21.112
you know, it's just like me sending everybody to go get bourgeois beef jerky.
00:45:21.472 --> 00:45:25.892
It's like you're a friend of mine. So I want to see you benefit from that,
00:45:25.972 --> 00:45:29.232
but it's also a bad-ass product. Like, why wouldn't you?
00:45:30.492 --> 00:45:34.672
And the people that I refer to the fishing side of it is the same thing.
00:45:34.812 --> 00:45:38.412
I mean, they don't come to fish for fish. They come to fish with me.
00:45:39.192 --> 00:45:44.312
And I don't say that arrogantly. I just, I'm going to take those fish off of those people.
00:45:44.612 --> 00:45:49.472
I'm going to bait that line. I'm going to tell that little Johnny joke or whatever
00:45:49.472 --> 00:45:51.012
it is. You got a joke book?
00:45:51.272 --> 00:45:55.012
Oh, man, I got a joke book for Dave. Or you got an app? Oh, no, no app.
00:45:55.612 --> 00:45:58.572
You got to go off the book. You got to have jokes, huh? You got to have jokes.
00:45:58.572 --> 00:46:04.892
Dude you gotta be able to be a dj you gotta navigate you gotta tell jokes i
00:46:04.892 --> 00:46:11.932
say this and and not everybody gets this but it's an entertainment business with some fishing,
00:46:12.932 --> 00:46:15.832
involved a lot of fishing guides think i might
00:46:15.832 --> 00:46:19.552
be telling my secret here a lot of people think it's
00:46:19.552 --> 00:46:22.512
a fishing business with some entertainment and that
00:46:22.512 --> 00:46:26.252
could be right but it's really an entertainment business with
00:46:26.252 --> 00:46:29.832
some fishing involved because man again you can't
00:46:29.832 --> 00:46:34.412
make fish bite you know so what happens when they don't and you gotta be telling
00:46:34.412 --> 00:46:38.832
jokes and what happens when there's 40 other charter guys to choose from and
00:46:38.832 --> 00:46:42.532
they can all catch fish this is right then it's not about the fish that's right
00:46:42.532 --> 00:46:47.992
you know but but going back to to people you know i mean some of the country artists,
00:46:48.232 --> 00:46:50.172
probably Chris Young, Jimmy Allen,
00:46:50.932 --> 00:46:54.192
football players, Dak Prescott, Logan Cook.
00:46:54.832 --> 00:46:58.152
Obviously, you know, Dak's been a friend of mine for a long time.
00:46:59.234 --> 00:47:03.194
Since he was at Mississippi State, Logan actually was a referral from Dak,
00:47:03.374 --> 00:47:05.214
and he became a great friend of mine.
00:47:05.434 --> 00:47:12.974
Both guys have some foundations that we do work with and auction off fishing trips with them as well.
00:47:13.234 --> 00:47:19.314
So it's been, you know, you see people come and then they go back home and they tell somebody.
00:47:19.514 --> 00:47:23.294
And before long, the whole offensive line wants to take a trip.
00:47:23.654 --> 00:47:25.914
And it's, you know, whoever they're bringing.
00:47:26.294 --> 00:47:32.254
So it's domino effect. Yeah. Which again, you know, I feel like we doing something right.
00:47:32.634 --> 00:47:36.554
You know, we 17 years in and you see a lot of the same folks.
00:47:36.754 --> 00:47:40.654
It's just a pat on the back. You know, the biggest thing for somebody to come
00:47:40.654 --> 00:47:41.934
back is the biggest compliment.
00:47:42.734 --> 00:47:47.154
Who handles booking and stuff like that? Do you do it on a website?
00:47:47.334 --> 00:47:49.594
You have like a software or something? I do it all. You do it all?
00:47:49.634 --> 00:47:54.174
Yeah, I do it all. Mostly through phone calls, text messages, and so forth.
00:47:55.094 --> 00:47:59.474
My phone is constantly going off, which, hey, that's business.
00:47:59.814 --> 00:48:05.194
And I enjoy doing it because, look, I feel like I run business how I want to run business.
00:48:05.714 --> 00:48:10.854
So when somebody calls, it's catching up with a friend, A, because you haven't
00:48:10.854 --> 00:48:11.914
seen them since last year.
00:48:11.934 --> 00:48:15.654
Or last month or two years you know
00:48:15.654 --> 00:48:18.554
but you're catching up but you're also doing business
00:48:18.554 --> 00:48:23.394
at the same time which again that you know the relationships and the friendships
00:48:23.394 --> 00:48:27.494
that i've made over the years that's kind of the benefit of that is that it's
00:48:27.494 --> 00:48:33.134
just not fishing only you know it is friendships and and relationships too you
00:48:33.134 --> 00:48:37.294
know how's uh we were talking about technology earlier.
00:48:38.094 --> 00:48:44.334
How's like meat, let's say like media changed that business over the 17 years.
00:48:45.014 --> 00:48:50.194
Yeah. I find, you know, when I was a kid, Doulard's really wasn't a thing.
00:48:50.494 --> 00:48:54.374
I mean, people fish there, but it wasn't like a popular place to go.
00:48:54.414 --> 00:48:55.854
Come from California to go to Doulard.
00:48:56.154 --> 00:49:01.334
No, no. I mean, if you did, it was Venice or Grand Isle. Venice gets all the credit, right? Yeah.
00:49:01.454 --> 00:49:06.074
I mean, Grand Isle, Cocodree and other, you know, big time fish and look all great places.
00:49:06.654 --> 00:49:09.934
And fortunately, I just never had to go there just because, you know,
00:49:10.054 --> 00:49:14.054
Dularge was the backyard for us and, you know, it was the area that I knew.
00:49:14.234 --> 00:49:19.174
But over time, you know, there were different forums and, you know,
00:49:19.314 --> 00:49:24.374
obviously things like Onyx and, you know, different aerial photography sites.
00:49:25.107 --> 00:49:28.027
And different things that it was a game changer, you know, of course,
00:49:28.227 --> 00:49:30.127
technology is just ever increasing.
00:49:30.427 --> 00:49:35.087
So, you know, there's a lot of things that are wide open to,
00:49:35.087 --> 00:49:39.967
to somebody looking at, or, you know, Hey, Hey, Hey, the fish are biting in Lost Lake.
00:49:40.207 --> 00:49:43.547
And, you know, there's Facebook, you know what I mean? You got groups who,
00:49:43.767 --> 00:49:48.327
and people go in there and just say, Hey, we caught 50 speckled trout in Lost Lake.
00:49:48.927 --> 00:49:53.887
Well, where you saw 10 boats in Lost Lake, well, now you got 50 and look,
00:49:54.027 --> 00:49:57.287
so be it. I mean, there's so much water to fish. But you know what else you see?
00:49:57.447 --> 00:50:04.547
You see guys taking their picture and they'll blur out any piece of anything in the background.
00:50:04.827 --> 00:50:08.647
An island, a rock, a dock, because everyone, they see a dock,
00:50:08.747 --> 00:50:10.627
they're like, I don't know where that's at. You got to be specific.
00:50:11.387 --> 00:50:16.987
It's much bigger in offshore, too. You're not going to catch a whole rig visible
00:50:16.987 --> 00:50:20.007
in someone's video offshore. You know, they're blurring out everything.
00:50:20.387 --> 00:50:24.387
Same. I mean, I've, over the years and, and even like, you know,
00:50:24.467 --> 00:50:28.087
my social media stuff, I learned that if you're fishing every day,
00:50:28.247 --> 00:50:29.467
you can't post every day.
00:50:30.387 --> 00:50:34.067
I mean, if you go to my social media right now, I might not post it for a month. Right.
00:50:34.487 --> 00:50:37.947
I might've fished 20 days, but I don't post it.
00:50:38.307 --> 00:50:42.407
And it's because if you saw me fishing here and I post that night,
00:50:42.547 --> 00:50:44.067
well, then you know exactly what I did.
00:50:44.887 --> 00:50:49.327
And, and you see, it's, it's unbelievable, but you see folks.
00:50:50.167 --> 00:50:53.787
You'll be back there the next day and you'll see them. Yeah. 1000%.
00:50:54.347 --> 00:50:57.927
So, you know, for me and, you know, one of the things as far as like social
00:50:57.927 --> 00:51:02.427
media, I had to realize that when you start to book three and four months out,
00:51:02.787 --> 00:51:06.467
well, if people see fish are biting a day, they want to go catch fish next week.
00:51:06.927 --> 00:51:09.287
Hey, what do you have next week? What do you have? Right. Yeah.
00:51:09.447 --> 00:51:12.627
You got tomorrow open? Well, I don't have anything open until November.
00:51:13.447 --> 00:51:16.387
Oh, really? And then that person calls somebody else.
00:51:16.387 --> 00:51:21.187
So then you lose out on that potential client or, you know, hey,
00:51:21.367 --> 00:51:26.427
you know, I've got a good network of guys that I can set somebody else up with or, and vice versa.
00:51:26.427 --> 00:51:31.527
I work for a couple other guides as well, you know, but if you post too much,
00:51:32.067 --> 00:51:35.547
then people call, which you want, it's a fine line there.
00:51:35.547 --> 00:51:39.007
You want people to call, you want people to come and buy beef jerky,
00:51:39.287 --> 00:51:43.947
but you don't want to overload it and then people not buy it. Yeah.
00:51:44.467 --> 00:51:47.667
Or can't, they can't access it. You know, for me, if I post,
00:51:47.807 --> 00:51:51.427
you know, fish or bite and people want to go fishing and, and,
00:51:51.987 --> 00:51:56.207
you know, somebody sees that post, but they, they instantly start thinking about
00:51:56.207 --> 00:51:59.007
fishing, you know, so you gotta,
00:51:59.167 --> 00:52:04.647
I've had over the years, I've had to really strategically decide if I want to
00:52:04.647 --> 00:52:09.567
be an everyday poster or if I just want to stay busy and post when I can.
00:52:10.802 --> 00:52:14.002
Are you, or have you ever been a big gear nerd?
00:52:15.762 --> 00:52:21.202
Not really. You don't need a new tackle box every year.
00:52:21.422 --> 00:52:26.802
And you swap all your rods every six months. I do, uh, every year I order a
00:52:26.802 --> 00:52:28.562
whole round of rods and reels.
00:52:28.722 --> 00:52:33.822
Mm-hmm. And I'll take this, or I'll take last year's. That'll be all backup equipment.
00:52:34.122 --> 00:52:35.902
Mm-hmm. I'll get all new equipment for this year.
00:52:36.242 --> 00:52:40.482
As far as boats, I flip them every three. Mm-hmm.
00:52:40.802 --> 00:52:43.962
So you're kind of staying in the latest, greatest. What boat are you running?
00:52:44.222 --> 00:52:47.062
Right now I'm running a 26-foot Pathfinder.
00:52:47.482 --> 00:52:49.582
Got the brand new Yamaha 350.
00:52:50.042 --> 00:52:54.782
So that just came out March the 1st, I believe, last year. You live bait?
00:52:55.142 --> 00:52:58.202
Not much live bait. No, mostly artificial is what we do.
00:52:58.942 --> 00:53:02.742
We've always had an issue with the live bait staying alive.
00:53:02.902 --> 00:53:05.962
Just because up where the boats are and the bait shops were,
00:53:05.962 --> 00:53:08.762
it was just a little more brackish or fresh water.
00:53:08.762 --> 00:53:11.582
So to keep keep live bait alive
00:53:11.582 --> 00:53:14.702
has been tough yeah so we
00:53:14.702 --> 00:53:17.762
uh we we throw a lot of plastic and we do well you
00:53:17.762 --> 00:53:20.442
know i mean look there are days where you wish you had some
00:53:20.442 --> 00:53:23.242
live shrimp but most days we don't have to mess
00:53:23.242 --> 00:53:26.082
with it what's your favorite i guess
00:53:26.082 --> 00:53:28.862
if you had the ideal setup for you to
00:53:28.862 --> 00:53:31.942
actually enjoy catching trout what's your
00:53:31.942 --> 00:53:34.962
favorite way to catch them i think uh
00:53:34.962 --> 00:53:38.322
i'm kind of mess with top water you
00:53:38.322 --> 00:53:42.162
yeah i kind of you know if i'm going by myself i've
00:53:42.162 --> 00:53:45.302
caught a lot of them in my days i kind
00:53:45.302 --> 00:53:48.102
of like that challenge it's almost like going hunting and instead
00:53:48.102 --> 00:53:51.782
of killing one with a rifle you killing one with a bow so for me i think top
00:53:51.782 --> 00:53:56.982
water would probably be a more rewarding i guess for me if i catch two or three
00:53:56.982 --> 00:54:03.522
on top water i was like catching 50 on a you know a tandem rig or whatever you
00:54:03.522 --> 00:54:06.482
get guys i'm assuming that they'll want to target big trout.
00:54:07.723 --> 00:54:11.443
We do. I think, you know, we get some guys that say, oh man,
00:54:11.543 --> 00:54:15.803
we can't wait to catch a, they call them a gator trout, you know, big gator trout.
00:54:16.243 --> 00:54:20.923
I'm like, well, you know, our area has always been known for a lot of trout.
00:54:21.463 --> 00:54:26.423
I mean, we, you know, we never had a problem with, with quantity.
00:54:27.403 --> 00:54:31.423
I can't say we have big trout.
00:54:32.163 --> 00:54:36.703
17 years of business, the biggest I've ever had somebody catch is a 5'3".
00:54:37.183 --> 00:54:41.143
And that was at the pickets first cast of the morning, actually double rig.
00:54:41.703 --> 00:54:45.923
It starts peeling drag, just like it was a redfish. That's what I thought it would be.
00:54:46.363 --> 00:54:50.483
And the light, the sunlight's still coming up and this guy's pole's bent.
00:54:50.583 --> 00:54:54.463
So I grabbed the net and when I do, I see that it's two speckled trout.
00:54:54.683 --> 00:54:57.263
So he had one small one and then the five, three.
00:54:57.643 --> 00:55:01.503
But as far as clients, that's the, that's the biggest fish that in 17 years
00:55:01.503 --> 00:55:06.623
of eight to 10,000 a year, it's a lot of fish.
00:55:07.243 --> 00:55:10.583
To only have a five, three. Now, I don't even know if this is allowed,
00:55:10.623 --> 00:55:15.963
but do, do clients hire you to go fish like red fish tournaments? No. Is that allowed?
00:55:17.428 --> 00:55:20.748
I don't know if it's allowed. I don't really deal with the tournaments too much
00:55:20.748 --> 00:55:23.508
just because it's so, I don't know a date.
00:55:23.868 --> 00:55:25.788
You might be booked on that date. Yeah.
00:55:26.308 --> 00:55:31.068
Now I'm curious if you, if you're allowed to hire a guy to go fish a redfish tournament.
00:55:31.268 --> 00:55:34.708
Yeah. I don't, usually it's a team. Seems like it would be a big market for
00:55:34.708 --> 00:55:36.208
it. Well, usually it's a team, you know?
00:55:36.388 --> 00:55:40.128
Right. So, I mean, there are, you know, local tournaments or whatever.
00:55:40.288 --> 00:55:43.548
I mean, we might get some calls to, to run a group.
00:55:43.688 --> 00:55:47.228
Maybe they don't have a boat or, you know, I know Kokadri does like a ladies,
00:55:47.428 --> 00:55:50.368
tournament so at that point a lot
00:55:50.368 --> 00:55:53.288
of guys are getting like three or four ladies and and it's
00:55:53.288 --> 00:55:56.348
all ladies groups per boat or whatever the case but
00:55:56.348 --> 00:56:01.448
you know so as far as that as far as like the circuit redfish is usually like
00:56:01.448 --> 00:56:06.448
partners so it might be me and you and we partnered up and we entered it's just
00:56:06.448 --> 00:56:15.528
us yeah what was your in a 26 pathfinder 26 what was your first boat Oh,
00:56:16.288 --> 00:56:18.588
first boat I ever had. Let me tell you about this boat.
00:56:18.948 --> 00:56:21.568
So it was my grandparents.
00:56:21.968 --> 00:56:25.228
This is a long time ago, but it was their 50th wedding anniversary.
00:56:25.548 --> 00:56:28.388
And they lived in Bayou Blue.
00:56:29.068 --> 00:56:31.628
And there was an empty lot next
00:56:31.628 --> 00:56:36.988
door. And this guy was cleaning up this lot. And I didn't have a boat.
00:56:39.528 --> 00:56:44.108
Throughout the day, this guy kept loading junk along the road.
00:56:44.768 --> 00:56:49.708
And I saw him at the end of the day, it was one, like a 14 foot aluminum boat.
00:56:49.888 --> 00:56:52.128
They just puts right on top of the junk pile.
00:56:53.048 --> 00:56:56.208
I'm like, man, I don't have a boat, but that would be cool. You know?
00:56:56.708 --> 00:56:59.728
So I asked my dad, I said, dad, can we get, can we take that boat home?
00:57:00.148 --> 00:57:02.988
He said, I'll tell you what, if you ask that guy, if you could have that boat.
00:57:03.088 --> 00:57:06.008
And he says, yes, we'll take that boat home.
00:57:07.048 --> 00:57:12.348
Leak. Boat leaked like a faucet. I know why I was on the top of the junk pile.
00:57:12.488 --> 00:57:16.088
Cause it was junk. but it was a boat and
00:57:16.088 --> 00:57:18.848
I took that boat home and I had some
00:57:18.848 --> 00:57:21.588
saw horses and put it and I put about one inch of water
00:57:21.588 --> 00:57:25.968
on the bottom of the floor of that thing and I mean they leaked but I when they
00:57:25.968 --> 00:57:30.548
leaked I took a drill and I would drill every rivet out just completely out
00:57:30.548 --> 00:57:37.088
and I had more JB weld and hell yeah screws you name but you know I'd put a
00:57:37.088 --> 00:57:38.988
bolt in there and JB weld everything together.
00:57:39.268 --> 00:57:41.928
And before long, I had a little boat. I didn't have a motor.
00:57:42.648 --> 00:57:46.708
So one day, one of my dad's brothers comes to our house and he said,
00:57:46.788 --> 00:57:48.248
man, what you doing with that little boat?
00:57:48.748 --> 00:57:52.108
I said, fishing the bayou up by my mom and dad's house.
00:57:52.268 --> 00:57:55.148
I said, but I don't have a motor for it. He said, you want a motor for that
00:57:55.148 --> 00:57:56.908
thing? I said, what you got?
00:57:57.388 --> 00:58:01.988
He said, I'll tell you what. Now my dad's family is big into antiques.
00:58:02.288 --> 00:58:07.188
He said, your dad's got a pair or a set of wrought iron gates behind in the
00:58:07.188 --> 00:58:08.908
shed. He ain't using them.
00:58:09.348 --> 00:58:12.568
You get me them gates. I'll give you this little boat.
00:58:13.148 --> 00:58:16.168
I mean, I'm sorry. I'll give you the motor for that boat.
00:58:17.212 --> 00:58:20.292
I said, all right. So I called my dad. I said, dad, I just gave you gates away.
00:58:20.772 --> 00:58:25.592
They're gone. I gave them away. I said, but we got a 25 Evinrude.
00:58:25.792 --> 00:58:31.072
And this thing was probably like a 1974, 76 smoke.
00:58:31.792 --> 00:58:35.912
Smoke like, I mean, like you ain't never saw smoke. But you know what?
00:58:36.172 --> 00:58:38.892
I had a boat now and I had a motor.
00:58:39.772 --> 00:58:42.772
You had a bunch of J.B. out in the shape of a boat. Oh, my God.
00:58:43.892 --> 00:58:49.272
I had a little bit of boat with my J.B. Go look at the meat market in Shriever. Yeah.
00:58:50.212 --> 00:58:53.332
That's J.B. Weld in the shape of a meat market. Hey, but it works.
00:58:54.112 --> 00:58:56.372
I can tell you. Everything in there got some J.B. Weld on it.
00:58:56.412 --> 00:58:57.912
That little boat caught some fish.
00:58:58.312 --> 00:59:02.612
We would take, at the time, I would take that boat, put it in the back of a
00:59:02.612 --> 00:59:05.652
truck with a motor inside of the boat.
00:59:05.772 --> 00:59:08.712
I'd get to a boat launch somewhere and just start hooking things up.
00:59:09.632 --> 00:59:13.472
And I'd go fishing and I'd catch fish. And then before long,
00:59:14.052 --> 00:59:18.372
this was back in the days, you may remember this or not, but they had the weekly one ads.
00:59:19.392 --> 00:59:22.292
And if you don't know what it was, it was just a classified ad.
00:59:23.973 --> 00:59:26.733
You could pick it up at the, you know, restaurant or, you know,
00:59:26.793 --> 00:59:29.813
at the door of a Walmart or whatever it was.
00:59:29.913 --> 00:59:34.233
And if you listed something for under a hundred dollars, it was free.
00:59:34.793 --> 00:59:38.453
Well, I'd be damned. I see a boat trailer for $99.
00:59:39.853 --> 00:59:42.333
So I tell my dad, I said, man, what do you think about this?
00:59:42.573 --> 00:59:47.373
And it was a homemade trailer, but for $99, I had a boat, well,
00:59:47.453 --> 00:59:48.913
and a pair of wrought iron gates.
00:59:49.193 --> 00:59:54.333
I had a boat motor and a trailer. And that was the first thing I ever started
00:59:54.333 --> 00:59:56.793
as a kid, catching fish in.
00:59:57.193 --> 01:00:01.873
And still, when I buy boats today, I always go and show it to my mom and dad.
01:00:01.993 --> 01:00:07.333
And they're like, man, amazing how far you've come from the boat that you got off the junk pile.
01:00:08.353 --> 01:00:11.533
And by your blue. And I still think about it. You know, look,
01:00:11.633 --> 01:00:15.273
I caught, man, I caught a lot of fish in that boat because you didn't care about it.
01:00:15.473 --> 01:00:18.533
I mean, if you went up on the rocks, whatever you went up on,
01:00:18.633 --> 01:00:21.353
it didn't matter. You know, like there was junk.
01:00:21.873 --> 01:00:25.153
So you could treat it like junk, but it caught some fish.
01:00:26.133 --> 01:00:29.593
There's boats and then there's fish catching boats. That was a fish catching.
01:00:29.673 --> 01:00:31.533
And you know it when you see it. Yeah, that was a fish catching boat.
01:00:31.733 --> 01:00:32.873
Look, it wasn't nothing to look at.
01:00:33.273 --> 01:00:36.673
It wasn't the prettiest one out there, but I guarantee you we didn't starve.
01:00:37.713 --> 01:00:42.133
And, you know, over time, as I got older, I got some different boats over the years.
01:00:42.633 --> 01:00:45.673
And when I first started guiding, there was a boat that I already had.
01:00:45.673 --> 01:00:50.533
I just kind of rolled it into the business, a bay boat. and I started running
01:00:50.533 --> 01:00:54.853
specific brands and every three years, I just started getting a new one.
01:00:55.133 --> 01:01:00.173
And again, like I said earlier, you get into a point where in three years,
01:01:00.693 --> 01:01:04.493
yeah, you're ready for something new, a new office view, but you can still sell
01:01:04.493 --> 01:01:08.053
it and get some money back on it. How many hours are you putting on a remote?
01:01:09.033 --> 01:01:13.093
I probably have about maybe 400 a year.
01:01:13.553 --> 01:01:16.773
Yeah. So you're selling them, you got somewhere between that thousand twelve
01:01:16.773 --> 01:01:20.393
hundred you know which a
01:01:20.393 --> 01:01:23.513
lot of people kind of frown upon but you
01:01:23.513 --> 01:01:26.693
know for me i'd rather buy one with some hours oh that's
01:01:26.693 --> 01:01:29.453
been used seasoned i like your black iron
01:01:29.453 --> 01:01:32.753
pot tuned up yeah man that's a tuned up it's a
01:01:32.753 --> 01:01:35.753
seasoned pot like a black iron pot you know or just buying one
01:01:35.753 --> 01:01:38.753
that had been sitting i know man because i
01:01:38.753 --> 01:01:42.173
hate hearing about people get a brand new spanking whatever
01:01:42.173 --> 01:01:47.033
and it's in the shop two months later it happens i mean look that's just things
01:01:47.033 --> 01:01:51.473
you know yeah i think as a i think things are getting built cheaper break it
01:01:51.473 --> 01:01:55.333
in yeah things are getting built cheaper in today's world you know like you
01:01:55.333 --> 01:01:58.793
actually have to break it in it's not ready until something's broken and then
01:01:58.793 --> 01:02:01.913
it's and then it's about time to be ready yeah no doubt that.
01:02:02.710 --> 01:02:07.010
So the first boat, would you say the first, your first guide boat was what?
01:02:07.110 --> 01:02:11.530
Yeah. My first guide boat, I think was a 22 foot blazer bay. Blazer bay.
01:02:11.910 --> 01:02:15.770
Yeah. I mean, it was just something I had that I was fishing just recreational
01:02:15.770 --> 01:02:18.190
and I rolled it into business.
01:02:18.370 --> 01:02:21.530
Have you done your own mechanic work at any time throughout the years?
01:02:21.530 --> 01:02:24.010
Oh yeah. Yeah. I still do today. You kind of have to, right?
01:02:24.170 --> 01:02:25.310
Yeah. You kind of have to be able to.
01:02:25.510 --> 01:02:30.830
There are times like right now, I mean, when I'm fishing maybe eight or 10 trips out of the month.
01:02:31.410 --> 01:02:36.750
I have time now that I could bring it in and get services done and get fine
01:02:36.750 --> 01:02:41.010
tuned for the season that's coming where you will be fishing eight days a week.
01:02:41.310 --> 01:02:44.970
Um, at those times when the, you know, when the alarm goes off and it's a hundred
01:02:44.970 --> 01:02:49.610
hours or 50 hours or wherever you changing that, there are days where you just
01:02:49.610 --> 01:02:54.370
got to pull it off the dock and do it at the dock, put it back in the water
01:02:54.370 --> 01:02:56.070
and just flip it, you know?
01:02:56.170 --> 01:03:00.510
And fortunately over the years, I mean, we've all kind of got accustomed to doing that.
01:03:00.650 --> 01:03:04.710
We have all the tools, pumps, you name it. It really doesn't take long.
01:03:04.890 --> 01:03:08.670
It's just the, the, the aggravation is just pulling the boat out of the water. Really.
01:03:09.050 --> 01:03:12.430
I'm on a private lift. So, you know, when people drive up to,
01:03:12.430 --> 01:03:16.350
to fish with me, I drop it down, we load up, we pick it back up,
01:03:16.470 --> 01:03:20.570
we clean fish and we send you on the way. What's the camp like down there?
01:03:20.990 --> 01:03:25.470
So we've got a couple of camps. Uh, I don't own any, that was actually my 10
01:03:25.470 --> 01:03:29.210
year goal of business that I still was just kind of straight away.
01:03:29.590 --> 01:03:32.210
And the reason being on that was just hurricanes.
01:03:33.270 --> 01:03:37.590
It only takes one to look at some damage and be like, damn, do I really want that?
01:03:38.430 --> 01:03:42.490
Knowing that it would be a kind of almost mailbox money, you know,
01:03:42.550 --> 01:03:48.750
in a sense, you know, I would think that 90% of my clientele would support me on that.
01:03:49.430 --> 01:03:55.970
But man, one hurricane, it doesn't matter how big or fat it is. I know.
01:03:56.110 --> 01:03:58.850
One bad storm is, it could be bad.
01:03:59.470 --> 01:04:03.930
So anyways, we've got a few camps that I broker out.
01:04:04.250 --> 01:04:08.050
And, you know, I mean, if it's available, I try to put them there.
01:04:08.230 --> 01:04:10.930
Obviously, we have one directly across the street.
01:04:11.250 --> 01:04:14.830
Five bedroom, five bath. Can sleep 20 people in beds.
01:04:15.530 --> 01:04:18.930
Very nice. Y'all load it up like that? Yeah, very nice. I guess you'll get a
01:04:18.930 --> 01:04:22.130
couple guides all lined up with one big group. Yeah.
01:04:22.910 --> 01:04:26.410
So like those tobacco farmers I was telling you, They came down in December
01:04:26.410 --> 01:04:30.410
with 18 guys, you know, so they needed that full camp.
01:04:30.570 --> 01:04:35.410
There's nowhere else that'll sleep 18 people, but our place will sleep 20, you know?
01:04:35.590 --> 01:04:39.070
So at that point, you knew they were going to stay there and they stay there every year.
01:04:39.350 --> 01:04:44.330
As a matter of fact, when this last hurricane came through, the roof blew off of that place.
01:04:44.530 --> 01:04:47.570
And we didn't know if it'd be available for them in December.
01:04:47.570 --> 01:04:49.470
And they were kind of a little bit sad about it.
01:04:49.590 --> 01:04:52.670
I had them set up at a couple other camps and-
01:04:53.492 --> 01:04:57.432
Ended up, they blacked it in and got the thing going again. And we were able
01:04:57.432 --> 01:05:03.112
to keep them there, but directly across the street, again, five bedroom, five bath, super nice.
01:05:03.292 --> 01:05:06.752
I mean, just as nice as your house would be, but it's partition.
01:05:07.112 --> 01:05:10.972
So you could only rent half of it if you want, where you say you got a client
01:05:10.972 --> 01:05:14.972
that are just three or four guys, where they could rent a three bedroom,
01:05:15.352 --> 01:05:19.752
three bath, kitchen, living room, set up and still be right across the street.
01:05:19.932 --> 01:05:22.972
You're down like past Juggs. Past Jugs, yeah, correct.
01:05:23.212 --> 01:05:28.992
So if you go just a little bit past me, you'll get wet feet. Yeah. That far.
01:05:29.472 --> 01:05:32.772
But, you know. So my grandpa always used to pass up Jugs.
01:05:33.712 --> 01:05:37.432
And we would launch, it had to be private. It had to be private.
01:05:37.532 --> 01:05:38.612
It was probably those oystermen.
01:05:39.012 --> 01:05:43.012
They got their own little launch. He would go past Jugs. He'd go over the little bump.
01:05:43.492 --> 01:05:48.772
He would always launch right there because he would pull the boat with his car.
01:05:49.652 --> 01:05:54.472
And that launch was better for him. for the angle in his car. For his hookup, huh?
01:05:54.792 --> 01:05:59.472
And it wasn't until I got older where I started paying more attention.
01:05:59.712 --> 01:06:02.412
I'm like, man, I don't think we're supposed to be doing this.
01:06:03.012 --> 01:06:06.092
You know, one cool thing about the bayou is you never meet a stranger.
01:06:06.792 --> 01:06:12.952
So chances of somebody pissing somebody off, like over somebody going fishing
01:06:12.952 --> 01:06:17.032
on a launch is probably not a bad deal. Not a 96-year-old man.
01:06:18.232 --> 01:06:21.912
They'd probably see him and just shake their head and continue. It's all good. I'm sure.
01:06:22.332 --> 01:06:26.132
But, yeah, so we're just past the hurricane protection levy.
01:06:26.312 --> 01:06:29.412
Obviously, 1,000% flood zone where we are. Yeah.
01:06:29.612 --> 01:06:34.212
So, if storms come in, I mean, we pull our boats back home, take ice machines,
01:06:34.352 --> 01:06:38.092
everything that we have, and bring them out of there. You know, just.
01:06:38.952 --> 01:06:41.732
Damn, so you got to do that twice a year almost. Yeah.
01:06:41.872 --> 01:06:45.532
I mean, it can kind of get a little monotonous when they start to say,
01:06:45.712 --> 01:06:48.112
oh, it's coming, and then it goes somewhere else. It's coming.
01:06:48.272 --> 01:06:51.552
Right. It's the fifth one for the year. That was a couple of years ago.
01:06:51.712 --> 01:06:53.752
I think it was about eight or seven or eight times.
01:06:54.292 --> 01:06:59.052
We pulled boats thinking that it was going to be a storm. And fortunately it
01:06:59.052 --> 01:07:02.252
went somewhere else. I mean, we're all right with that. God.
01:07:02.872 --> 01:07:05.132
But that's, you know, that's South Louisiana for you. You know,
01:07:05.232 --> 01:07:08.492
you go anywhere else, just pick your own poison, avalanches,
01:07:08.632 --> 01:07:12.192
earthquakes, you know, wildfires. Let me ask you a question.
01:07:13.392 --> 01:07:16.992
I'm assuming you're running a Minn Kota or something with a spot lock. Yeah.
01:07:17.232 --> 01:07:20.252
When a hurricane's coming the night before, you can't drop it in the water.
01:07:20.392 --> 01:07:23.752
Put SpotLock on and just let it go up with the water? Yeah, maybe.
01:07:23.992 --> 01:07:26.252
And when it comes back down, it'd be right there. Yeah.
01:07:27.312 --> 01:07:31.232
It's probably the technology. It's getting pretty smart. You make that video
01:07:31.232 --> 01:07:33.172
and that's gonna go viral.
01:07:33.832 --> 01:07:35.772
One GoPro on it and see what happens.
01:07:37.658 --> 01:07:41.998
Put about five or six batteries on it and just let it eat. It would be really
01:07:41.998 --> 01:07:44.978
cool to be a bird's eye view on some of these hurricanes.
01:07:44.978 --> 01:07:49.498
You know, when you see so much water come or like Hurricane Ida,
01:07:49.838 --> 01:07:53.138
it sucked so much water over and under that storm.
01:07:53.398 --> 01:07:56.738
Where like in Sissor Lake, there's a gauge there.
01:07:56.878 --> 01:08:01.898
It dropped like seven feet of, you know, might have been a plus four or whatever
01:08:01.898 --> 01:08:03.878
it was to like a minus three.
01:08:04.498 --> 01:08:10.778
It just bellies the Gulf. It just sucked that whole thing. That's crazy. All of that water.
01:08:11.538 --> 01:08:15.678
And those lakes, I mean, some of those lakes are just four or five feet any day of the week.
01:08:15.838 --> 01:08:19.578
You know, or you think about in the marsh. I mean, that's two foot of water, three foot of water.
01:08:20.138 --> 01:08:23.218
Well, you know, when something like that, where it sucks seven feet,
01:08:23.318 --> 01:08:25.958
that's just mud and oysters.
01:08:26.538 --> 01:08:29.878
But it would be cool to be a bird's eye view on something like that to where
01:08:29.878 --> 01:08:32.838
you see it disappear. And then all of a sudden, a couple hours later,
01:08:32.858 --> 01:08:36.478
you see it come right on back in. All right. Bird's eye view. Sure.
01:08:37.218 --> 01:08:43.478
Fishing birds for trout. What if I'm running up, I'm running up,
01:08:43.638 --> 01:08:48.478
I see some birds, you fishing the birds, what should I do?
01:08:50.338 --> 01:08:55.238
Well, that depends who you ask. For me, man, there's so much water,
01:08:55.938 --> 01:08:58.558
and those birds probably won't be there that long.
01:08:59.538 --> 01:09:05.138
If somebody comes up, as long as somebody's not going to just come run right
01:09:05.138 --> 01:09:07.938
over where the fish are, I actually entertain it.
01:09:08.158 --> 01:09:11.478
I mean, it's like, hey, man, I want people to catch fish.
01:09:11.798 --> 01:09:16.458
You know, going back to why I started business and how cool Louisiana is,
01:09:16.638 --> 01:09:19.998
I like for people to experience what I did my whole life.
01:09:20.838 --> 01:09:26.078
Somebody from Montana doesn't see this, where the fish is pushing the shrimp
01:09:26.078 --> 01:09:28.778
up and the bird is eating the shrimp from the top.
01:09:28.918 --> 01:09:32.758
So it sucks to be the shrimp. So, me and- But how cool of a,
01:09:32.938 --> 01:09:35.618
and then the people throw in the catchless speckled trout.
01:09:35.818 --> 01:09:41.238
It's just one big food chain all in one, you know, which is cool. Bo and I were fishing-
01:09:43.068 --> 01:09:49.108
Shit, it was past Lost Pass. I guess it'd be like Eagle Lake area. Okay.
01:09:49.568 --> 01:09:56.368
And we're fishing some birds, and we're smoking a trout, and just me and him having a blast.
01:09:57.468 --> 01:10:04.128
This dude comes in, hot, runs up, you know, kills the boat, runs up to the front,
01:10:04.728 --> 01:10:08.788
drops a trolling motor, and he's like coasting in between us and the birds.
01:10:08.948 --> 01:10:11.668
Nice. drops a trolling motor coasts in
01:10:11.668 --> 01:10:15.168
starts putting together his fly rod and he
01:10:15.168 --> 01:10:18.008
wears the piss out of the trout and we didn't get one bite
01:10:18.008 --> 01:10:21.068
and we're watching him and we started talking
01:10:21.068 --> 01:10:24.308
to him he's from here he's from shriever and we had
01:10:24.308 --> 01:10:27.988
some mutual friends in common and all and literally
01:10:27.988 --> 01:10:30.868
not one more bite we couldn't do anything to
01:10:30.868 --> 01:10:34.208
make that change isn't that amazing we're right by him he's got
01:10:34.208 --> 01:10:37.048
his fly rod and he's he's like taunting us
01:10:37.048 --> 01:10:41.048
he's like he's like watch watch watch i'm a count to three y'all
01:10:41.048 --> 01:10:43.788
throwing in the same barrel yeah he's like watch i'm gonna count to
01:10:43.788 --> 01:10:46.468
three one two pulling pulling them in and we
01:10:46.468 --> 01:10:50.308
were counting three catching on two both pissed and impressed at the same time
01:10:50.308 --> 01:10:55.168
but i would never do that to someone else you know i think that's kind of where
01:10:55.168 --> 01:10:58.868
like social media and some of the you know some of the media stuff that we were
01:10:58.868 --> 01:11:03.368
talking about i mean and people post things and when you know hey look we all
01:11:03.368 --> 01:11:05.968
want to go and catch fish So if you know fish are biting,
01:11:06.228 --> 01:11:09.648
like, why wouldn't you go to Lost Lake or wherever you heard they were biting?
01:11:10.288 --> 01:11:14.748
So, you know, it does get a little bit crowded and you got the person that you
01:11:14.748 --> 01:11:17.628
fish five days and they only get one.
01:11:17.808 --> 01:11:20.888
So they want to go catch fish. And I see both sides of that.
01:11:21.588 --> 01:11:24.908
Again, you see those people who probably shouldn't own a boat,
01:11:24.908 --> 01:11:29.468
who, you know, would be somebody that would just go run right on top of the birds.
01:11:29.988 --> 01:11:35.168
And I, you know, as big as what our Louisiana coast is, I always think it's
01:11:35.168 --> 01:11:38.828
like, man, how many fish did we pass up looking for a fish?
01:11:39.863 --> 01:11:43.123
You're running 10 miles to go somewhere that you know you've been hammering
01:11:43.123 --> 01:11:45.363
those fish. How many fish did we pass up?
01:11:45.483 --> 01:11:50.543
Or you leave the dock. You go fish all day. You get murdered by the sun.
01:11:50.743 --> 01:11:54.123
You come back in and the kids that were fishing on the dock by the marina.
01:11:54.123 --> 01:11:58.483
They got them. They got all the fish. It happens. I've seen that too. It happens.
01:11:59.783 --> 01:12:06.783
So I've also been, say, in the Gulf fishing like rocks for trout where there's 8 to 10 boats.
01:12:07.643 --> 01:12:12.883
And everyone's kind of worried about, are they about to piss someone off?
01:12:14.443 --> 01:12:18.203
Everyone's catching, but everyone's doing their thing.
01:12:19.363 --> 01:12:23.223
What's the rules? Because I never asked someone if I pissed them off.
01:12:23.343 --> 01:12:27.303
I don't know if there is any rule. I always just think like, man, just same as life.
01:12:27.703 --> 01:12:29.843
Just say sorry after if they get mad.
01:12:30.703 --> 01:12:33.363
What are they going to do? But still, at the end of the day,
01:12:33.483 --> 01:12:37.123
it's like, man, if you would want it done to you or if you wouldn't want it
01:12:37.123 --> 01:12:40.483
done to you, then probably it's not that good to do it to somebody else.
01:12:40.983 --> 01:12:44.003
You know, so you just got to use your brain on it. It's like,
01:12:44.103 --> 01:12:48.643
man, and you see things happen where, you know, you do get that boat and they
01:12:48.643 --> 01:12:49.743
come and the fish shut off.
01:12:49.923 --> 01:12:52.803
Those fish didn't go real far. You just got to go find them again.
01:12:53.703 --> 01:12:56.723
And then again, sometimes that's it. It's over. You know,
01:12:56.823 --> 01:12:59.743
like it might've been that one point because it's 20 mile
01:12:59.743 --> 01:13:03.383
an hour winds and that's the only place that you knew you could catch and
01:13:03.383 --> 01:13:06.483
something happens and you know again that's where my clientele
01:13:06.483 --> 01:13:09.343
who are awesome comes into play that hey what we got
01:13:09.343 --> 01:13:12.163
is what we got too you know like you might be
01:13:12.163 --> 01:13:15.783
working a bank fishing reds and you're
01:13:15.783 --> 01:13:20.663
on the bank and you're like your boat is pointed this way and you're going towards
01:13:20.663 --> 01:13:27.023
maybe a cut up here and it's 50 yards away and then a boat comes in and gets
01:13:27.023 --> 01:13:31.983
right on that he should know that you're going that way and just leave you go
01:13:31.983 --> 01:13:35.483
to a different spot common courtesy things like that i find,
01:13:36.103 --> 01:13:42.183
is common sense but other situations like if we're all if we're all on birds or we're all on rocks.
01:13:42.843 --> 01:13:47.843
I kind of don't see a problem with us all getting pretty close to each other as long as we're not,
01:13:48.343 --> 01:13:51.303
casting into your boat some of the guys i
01:13:51.303 --> 01:13:54.223
network with i mean there'll be times we had a group this last
01:13:54.223 --> 01:13:57.643
summer was 11 boats guys like 34 guys
01:13:57.643 --> 01:14:00.583
we had and you know it's all buddies of
01:14:00.583 --> 01:14:03.623
ours that guide wise fishing and we
01:14:03.623 --> 01:14:06.423
all knew we were gonna you know you hate to put all the eggs in
01:14:06.423 --> 01:14:09.263
one basket so what we did was say hey
01:14:09.263 --> 01:14:11.923
we all gonna take a you know we're fishing the golf at the
01:14:11.923 --> 01:14:15.363
pickets and we said hey we're all gonna take a spot and
01:14:15.363 --> 01:14:18.763
then whoever's catching we'll just kind to start rotate yeah
01:14:18.763 --> 01:14:24.263
rotating in there and look if you do it pretty subtly it can happen where you
01:14:24.263 --> 01:14:28.443
got three four boats in a row and everybody's catching yeah that's cool and
01:14:28.443 --> 01:14:32.503
then again there's days where hey maybe nobody's catching it but it's nice to
01:14:32.503 --> 01:14:36.123
see that you know in your network well hey if.
01:14:36.830 --> 01:14:41.790
Sean's not catching them and Travis is not catching them. Maybe they're just not biting quite yet.
01:14:42.210 --> 01:14:46.170
And then all of a sudden you, you see, well, we got 10. Oh yeah, we got 12.
01:14:46.450 --> 01:14:49.290
And you kind of know you on that same, it's like, all right,
01:14:49.350 --> 01:14:51.650
well maybe they, they weren't eating until now, you know?
01:14:51.930 --> 01:14:54.990
And I mean, a fish is a fish. Hey, when we hungry, we go to the,
01:14:55.090 --> 01:14:56.730
we go to the refrigerator.
01:14:57.410 --> 01:15:02.190
How nice is having Spylock? Oh man, it's a game changer. Was that a game changer?
01:15:02.310 --> 01:15:06.430
Would you say that's the biggest game changer? I think biggest game changer
01:15:06.430 --> 01:15:12.950
for me, man, to have, to be able to move just on a whim and not have to pick
01:15:12.950 --> 01:15:14.450
up an anchor, drop an anchor.
01:15:14.830 --> 01:15:18.170
How many times you ever had an anchor that just didn't want to set it? Mine.
01:15:18.450 --> 01:15:22.130
My anchors never. Man, it don't matter which one you, I mean,
01:15:22.190 --> 01:15:26.870
somebody might, oh man, you got to go buy this one particular brand with 19
01:15:26.870 --> 01:15:29.710
feet of chain and this kind of rope.
01:15:29.810 --> 01:15:34.150
And dude, the problem, like that is, if you're trying to get an anchor to hold,
01:15:34.150 --> 01:15:38.030
especially if it's even 20 foot, that is backbreaking work.
01:15:38.090 --> 01:15:42.370
And if you got all new people in the boat, and if you're like me,
01:15:42.570 --> 01:15:44.470
I don't even, I don't ask anyone to help.
01:15:44.570 --> 01:15:47.850
No, I don't. You know, if, if there's a skilled guy on the boat,
01:15:48.430 --> 01:15:51.090
probably he'll just do it and he'll know what to do and he'll do it.
01:15:51.190 --> 01:15:53.430
But other than that, I'm not going to ask anyone to help.
01:15:53.590 --> 01:15:59.370
So I'm like, I might be trying to fish the bridge Caminata and I'm running back
01:15:59.370 --> 01:16:00.990
and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
01:16:01.370 --> 01:16:05.370
Trying to set it. Trying to set it. And I'm drifting away. And we finally get
01:16:05.370 --> 01:16:08.430
a spot. And I don't like where it's at. And I got to redo it all again.
01:16:08.710 --> 01:16:10.950
I can't imagine just being able to go, boop.
01:16:11.579 --> 01:16:18.159
It was a game changer in the industry. And now they even have like on the unit
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:24.859
that I run is a jog where if you hit the button, you know, you have a forward direction.
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:30.679
If you hit the button two times to the right, it's going to jog you five feet per time you hit it.
01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:33.639
So just say you want to move up 50 feet.
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:39.279
Well, you hit up 10 times. You don't touch it. Oh, so you hit it and let it
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:41.199
go. Yeah, you're hitting it and it's taking you up.
01:16:41.579 --> 01:16:45.239
50 feet from the coordinates that you, you know, the coordinates that you were
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.979
on, but it's a jog mode. And what happens is you get on these,
01:16:48.979 --> 01:16:52.799
these reefs offshore where it's all rock and just open water.
01:16:53.059 --> 01:16:56.739
What allows you to kind of sniff over that whole thing is like,
01:16:56.779 --> 01:16:59.459
Hey, you pull up and you hadn't caught anything in 10 minutes.
01:16:59.879 --> 01:17:04.539
Well, let's move up 50 feet and you move up, you click it 10 times and it's
01:17:04.539 --> 01:17:07.379
going to move you up or to the West or whatever it is.
01:17:07.519 --> 01:17:11.239
You per time you hit it is five feet. Dude, that's a game changer.
01:17:11.579 --> 01:17:15.619
Because now, just say it's five feet. Sometimes you might just be right outside
01:17:15.619 --> 01:17:18.379
of where those redfish are sitting in 30 foot of water.
01:17:19.259 --> 01:17:24.119
Or you might be out 100 feet from where those speckled trout are by the thousands. Yeah.
01:17:24.839 --> 01:17:27.839
You just kind of sniff over it. But man, what a game changer,
01:17:27.839 --> 01:17:32.099
you know, to have spot lock. Mm-hmm. Huge.
01:17:32.779 --> 01:17:37.059
You know, now they pick, you press a button, they come up, you push a button, they go down.
01:17:37.259 --> 01:17:39.979
Some people run those. Some people like to still do it manually.
01:17:39.979 --> 01:17:45.219
But uh man what a game changer from having to pick up an anchor and what about uh electronics.
01:17:46.339 --> 01:17:49.979
You know for us electronics are
01:17:49.979 --> 01:17:56.239
almost just for for show in a sense yeah i mean look you know having having
01:17:56.239 --> 01:18:01.799
where you can put actual google photography on a on a unit obviously for navigation
01:18:01.799 --> 01:18:08.079
reasons it's huge it's nice to to be able to run with but you know for me that
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:09.399
this was a couple years ago,
01:18:09.579 --> 01:18:12.439
I had a new boat and this is actually my last boat.
01:18:12.759 --> 01:18:17.759
I had a, the boat came in and the screen that I bought, I like to maximize everything.
01:18:17.819 --> 01:18:20.099
If I could put three power poles, I'm putting three.
01:18:20.299 --> 01:18:23.739
If I can put two, I'm, you know, I'm maximizing everything. So they give me
01:18:23.739 --> 01:18:27.759
a console this big, I'm trying to maximize that thing with a screen because
01:18:27.759 --> 01:18:30.619
I want people to get in and be like, damn, that's nice.
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:34.539
Cause let's face it. People are investing, they're investing in you.
01:18:34.539 --> 01:18:41.079
Why not have stuff worth worth investing in you know and so anyways i i bring
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:44.079
everything to the dealership and they're gonna rig everything up and they call
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.199
me they said hey man we got a problem i'm.
01:18:46.949 --> 01:18:49.749
Shit he said the the unit is too
01:18:49.749 --> 01:18:52.989
big for the dashboard and you
01:18:52.989 --> 01:18:56.149
already bought it said man you gotta be kidding me he
01:18:56.149 --> 01:18:58.949
said well what they did was they put a little
01:18:58.949 --> 01:19:04.709
radio head where the where the unit would go so it kind of minimalizes where
01:19:04.709 --> 01:19:10.169
you could put that unit he said but i know you got to run a trip and this was
01:19:10.169 --> 01:19:15.629
a trip i had the country artist chris young i had dac prescott Lyle Collins
01:19:15.629 --> 01:19:17.589
was with him. Dak's brother, Tad.
01:19:18.229 --> 01:19:21.769
I had a group that I knew music was going to be important to.
01:19:22.209 --> 01:19:26.189
He said, man, hey, here's the deal. He said, guys like music,
01:19:26.309 --> 01:19:29.849
huh? Do you really need the unit today?
01:19:30.349 --> 01:19:33.189
Like for the next trip, you're going to run in three days. I'm like.
01:19:33.849 --> 01:19:36.629
Or do you need the radio? I'm like, I need the radio.
01:19:37.009 --> 01:19:41.489
Thousand percent. I mean, at this point, I could run with my eyes closed,
01:19:41.609 --> 01:19:45.489
you know? But to have that radio or no radio, that's a game changer.
01:19:45.629 --> 01:19:48.429
I mean, let's face it. When you're fishing, you got to have some music.
01:19:48.589 --> 01:19:49.609
Come on, man. That's crazy.
01:19:49.789 --> 01:19:53.189
And so anyways, what was going to happen was they were going to remove that
01:19:53.189 --> 01:19:58.429
head afterwards and then cut out for the unit that was too big.
01:19:58.569 --> 01:20:02.469
It wasn't for the dash. It just was too big to put what they had there.
01:20:02.849 --> 01:20:07.369
But on that one, man, I punted. I said, man, I don't need that. I don't need that GPS.
01:20:07.989 --> 01:20:11.549
What I do need is that radio. Good call. Yeah. And we jammed out.
01:20:11.549 --> 01:20:15.069
We had a good time, you know, and I, you know, if I were a person that just
01:20:15.069 --> 01:20:17.509
relied upon that, then that might've been a different thing.
01:20:17.649 --> 01:20:20.249
But man, that to have that radio was huge.
01:20:20.709 --> 01:20:24.189
You got to tell a lot of little Johnny jokes. If you don't, you like a little
01:20:24.189 --> 01:20:28.309
noise and Hey man, again, it's, it's fun. You know, that's what people are here for.
01:20:30.259 --> 01:20:35.339
Joe, I started diving maybe two years ago, doing some free diving, spirit fishing.
01:20:35.839 --> 01:20:39.139
And like you were saying earlier, you're talking about the reds.
01:20:39.299 --> 01:20:41.679
They might not be here. They might be here.
01:20:42.019 --> 01:20:48.539
And like this was one of the coolest things for me to see because,
01:20:48.719 --> 01:20:53.719
you know, you spend your whole life in the boat and you're just guessing as to where they are.
01:20:53.879 --> 01:20:56.799
You know, you only know they're there if they're biting it. But if they're not
01:20:56.799 --> 01:20:58.299
biting it, you assume they're not there.
01:20:58.299 --> 01:21:01.839
Is absolutely not the case right because you
01:21:01.839 --> 01:21:04.699
know we get to see we get in at the rigs and
01:21:04.699 --> 01:21:07.659
we get to see four or five boats pull up and
01:21:07.659 --> 01:21:10.419
leave pull up and leave pull up and leave and we can
01:21:10.419 --> 01:21:13.339
stack the boat with mangroves cobia yeah you
01:21:13.339 --> 01:21:16.439
see what's down there and i can see their lines and
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.039
i can see where the fish are and i can see what the fish are doing you
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:22.899
know everyone might be coming here and that's where they're
01:21:22.899 --> 01:21:25.779
fishing well all the fish are here or they're on
01:21:25.779 --> 01:21:28.579
the inside the rig facing that way and it was
01:21:28.579 --> 01:21:31.299
really the the time it really hit me
01:21:31.299 --> 01:21:35.359
relating it to fishing because I've always thought about it you know but really
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:41.519
relating it to fishing is uh seeing big bull reds and drum stacked up on a leg
01:21:41.519 --> 01:21:46.859
you know yeah about a hundred is probably oh you know as many as you want as
01:21:46.859 --> 01:21:51.279
big as you want but all doing the same thing it's they're not just all down there.
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:53.319
Lollygagging, you know, like
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:57.139
the snapper do and mangroves, they kind of just kind of be everywhere.
01:21:57.739 --> 01:22:01.039
They're just sitting like logs. They're all facing the same direction.
01:22:01.459 --> 01:22:05.399
They're all kind of lined up and piled up into a little school and just sitting,
01:22:05.419 --> 01:22:08.559
you know, and the first time I saw that, I was like.
01:22:09.780 --> 01:22:12.920
You just you like it's just another realization like you
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.720
just have to find them there they could be here they could be
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:18.440
here they could be facing that way that way so you have
01:22:18.440 --> 01:22:21.320
to figure that out you know yeah and look i mean going back
01:22:21.320 --> 01:22:24.040
to what i was saying earlier is you know you could
01:22:24.040 --> 01:22:27.460
catch them all on this one point for a week straight and then
01:22:27.460 --> 01:22:31.020
you go back there on friday and you know they're there they
01:22:31.020 --> 01:22:34.160
just they didn't bite or hey they might have been a hundred yards
01:22:34.160 --> 01:22:37.060
down on another point but you were just so
01:22:37.060 --> 01:22:39.840
invested in that one but like you know right there
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:42.660
as you see a couple boats come in and you see their line go
01:22:42.660 --> 01:22:45.500
down and you seeing where the fish is on the
01:22:45.500 --> 01:22:48.200
other side of the you know where the fish are on the other side of the
01:22:48.200 --> 01:22:51.500
rig knowing that damn well they're not going to catch them and that
01:22:51.500 --> 01:22:54.160
the fish ain't moving you know so at that point you
01:22:54.160 --> 01:22:57.060
see that boat leaving and you're down there spearfishing and yeah
01:22:57.060 --> 01:23:00.160
but then you see the boat then you see a guy with with
01:23:00.160 --> 01:23:03.460
a spot lock come on the up current yeah and
01:23:03.460 --> 01:23:06.220
you know he can do something when something no one else can yeah
01:23:06.220 --> 01:23:09.440
you know sit there and fish them yeah that's another that's a
01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:12.100
game changer that's really big man yeah you don't have
01:23:12.100 --> 01:23:16.780
to worry about what way the currents go and what if your rig hook connect caught
01:23:16.780 --> 01:23:22.300
or if it didn't catch i mean you got a lot there's a lot of man this is a cool
01:23:22.300 --> 01:23:26.540
it's a cool thing for a long time i had an anchor on well i still do i have
01:23:26.540 --> 01:23:29.960
anchor on my boat and it's emergency purposes only. Do you have to?
01:23:30.580 --> 01:23:33.360
Nope. It's not required. No, not required. No, not required.
01:23:33.500 --> 01:23:37.160
But man, there've been a few days where something will break on a trolling motor.
01:23:37.300 --> 01:23:39.700
I mean, hey, let's get it. You know, it's electronics, you know.
01:23:40.160 --> 01:23:45.420
And as many times as it goes up and down for me and gets ran hours upon hours
01:23:45.420 --> 01:23:48.760
upon hours, yeah, you got to expect a breakdown here and there.
01:23:50.080 --> 01:23:54.400
But I had anchor on my boats just for like, hey, if I lost power altogether.
01:23:54.400 --> 01:23:59.880
Together with having two shallow water anchors and a spot lock.
01:24:00.160 --> 01:24:05.280
I mean, if I can't anchor with all those three, you know, probably $15,000 worth
01:24:05.280 --> 01:24:09.520
of stuff, I'm going home, you know?
01:24:09.740 --> 01:24:13.740
So, so typically, you know, your, your, your technology should work for you
01:24:13.740 --> 01:24:15.800
and it does. It's been pretty cool to have.
01:24:18.220 --> 01:24:25.700
What, let's, what's your, what's like your morning routine look like? Ooh, morning routine.
01:24:25.900 --> 01:24:34.640
Like you got six guys that play for Dallas or something, and they're coming
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:37.160
in, and they're at the camp.
01:24:37.380 --> 01:24:42.320
Like when you wake up and you do what? Yeah, so it depends on the client.
01:24:42.620 --> 01:24:44.680
Like some clients we do...
01:24:46.446 --> 01:24:49.466
Catered lodging, catering, breakfast, lunch.
01:24:49.806 --> 01:24:52.826
Before the fishing? Before the fishing. I don't know if I agree with that.
01:24:53.046 --> 01:24:54.906
I think you got to earn your breakfast.
01:24:55.306 --> 01:24:58.866
I think you got to go catch fish, come back and eat. Sometimes it's beer for breakfast.
01:24:59.566 --> 01:25:03.906
It depends how late they've stayed up. We're saying that breakfast after fishing,
01:25:04.086 --> 01:25:08.846
but I know you guys like to post your dock shots at like 745.
01:25:10.526 --> 01:25:13.986
So you probably can eat breakfast still early in the morning.
01:25:14.106 --> 01:25:16.926
It really all depends though. I mean, like a summer day for me,
01:25:17.046 --> 01:25:20.046
I mean, my alarm goes off at 2.45 a.m.
01:25:20.786 --> 01:25:24.066
As early. You know, some people are still out at that point.
01:25:24.506 --> 01:25:28.506
2.45, my alarm's going to go to work.
01:25:29.266 --> 01:25:32.686
And 3.15 is my goal to leave home.
01:25:33.046 --> 01:25:37.226
Of course, I live in Thibodeau, you know, or Chag Bay, and it's an hour for
01:25:37.226 --> 01:25:41.426
me to get to the boat. So I got a plan for that hour drive, which is,
01:25:41.566 --> 01:25:44.406
you know, some may say it seems like a lot. But, man, for me,
01:25:44.526 --> 01:25:47.246
it's a cup of coffee. I chat with a few guides in the morning.
01:25:47.566 --> 01:25:52.146
I got my ritual places where I might get diesel or fuel or whatever it is.
01:25:52.386 --> 01:25:55.906
Kind of like an old man, you know, when you're going to read the newspaper at McDonald's.
01:25:56.066 --> 01:25:57.586
You got to get your honey bun and your yoo-hoo. Yeah, you know,
01:25:57.626 --> 01:26:01.466
it's like all those things. But 2.45 in the summer, you know, I'm up.
01:26:01.666 --> 01:26:06.586
3.15, I'm out the door. 4.15, I'm at the boat. And probably 4.45 clients.
01:26:07.646 --> 01:26:10.806
If it is something that's catered or whatever, I mean, obviously,
01:26:10.806 --> 01:26:14.926
we hire people to come in and do things. And then there are some times like
01:26:14.926 --> 01:26:18.326
when Dax group comes in, I mean, these are like hanging out with my friends.
01:26:19.126 --> 01:26:22.886
So I'm gonna go boil crawfish or I'm gonna cook,
01:26:23.337 --> 01:26:28.457
or whatever it is, you know? So it's, it's PR as well as work,
01:26:28.597 --> 01:26:33.317
you know, but, you know, typically we, we, something we're usually running before
01:26:33.317 --> 01:26:37.197
the sun comes up at our fishing spots when the sun's hitting the horizon.
01:26:37.677 --> 01:26:41.077
And, you know, our trips probably run to about noon or so. We,
01:26:41.137 --> 01:26:44.137
we always hope that, you know, somewhere around 12 o'clock or so,
01:26:44.297 --> 01:26:46.577
you got a couple hours of fish cleaning, hopefully.
01:26:47.097 --> 01:26:53.877
Do your wife and kids like to fish? They do. Yeah. So I, I got a wife who enjoys hunting and fishing.
01:26:54.177 --> 01:26:58.557
I've got two girls, uh, Miller Claire and Juliana, eight and 13.
01:26:58.917 --> 01:27:02.917
And, uh, they both love to fish in the summertime when they're out,
01:27:03.297 --> 01:27:04.657
of course, is my busy time.
01:27:04.837 --> 01:27:09.117
So it's not always that they can come on the boat with me during COVID was pretty
01:27:09.117 --> 01:27:12.857
cool because they were out of school. I wasn't really doing a whole lot of fishing.
01:27:13.457 --> 01:27:17.877
So we were able to spend time on my office a good bit and let them come and
01:27:17.877 --> 01:27:22.717
see what I see every day, dolphins. and pelicans and man, just the coast,
01:27:23.097 --> 01:27:24.157
you know, waves crashing.
01:27:24.337 --> 01:27:27.397
Like it's, it's more than just fishing, you know?
01:27:27.537 --> 01:27:31.717
Yeah. And I believe when you book me, that's what you get more than fishing,
01:27:31.857 --> 01:27:33.337
you know, and it should be that.
01:27:33.797 --> 01:27:38.757
But, um, yeah, they love to fish. They love to hunt. Both girls killed each a deer this year.
01:27:39.457 --> 01:27:43.037
I don't have boys, so they got to do, my girls, they got to do boy stuff.
01:27:43.537 --> 01:27:46.397
Yeah. yeah you gotta be able
01:27:46.397 --> 01:27:50.737
to make it special for them which attempting as
01:27:50.737 --> 01:27:58.797
well yeah with two girls and my boy is he's four months so not yet but uh but
01:27:58.797 --> 01:28:03.637
the girls i'm trying to make it special for him because fishing and hunting
01:28:03.637 --> 01:28:09.737
just anything outdoors it was always a super special thing for me growing up,
01:28:10.077 --> 01:28:14.937
you know, and I didn't have to catch them all, but I think that was,
01:28:14.977 --> 01:28:18.697
that was due to maybe who I was going with, you know, so say,
01:28:18.937 --> 01:28:23.237
you know, I spent a lot of time, a lot of time fishing with my dad when I was younger.
01:28:23.617 --> 01:28:29.737
And when I was older, a lot of times fishing with my papa and the old guys,
01:28:29.997 --> 01:28:32.877
they got a way of making it fun, right.
01:28:33.737 --> 01:28:38.997
Without any, any actual fun happening. Like looking back Looking back I don't
01:28:38.997 --> 01:28:43.857
know why I still fish But something must have been Like they must have been
01:28:43.857 --> 01:28:45.757
doing something And I think it has to do with,
01:28:46.337 --> 01:28:49.717
The build up of the trip You know just the excitement,
01:28:50.277 --> 01:28:54.137
Maybe the routine like you said Like stop you always stop at the same gas station
01:28:54.137 --> 01:28:58.977
You get a honey bun you do whatever You always go talk to the man at the Launch
01:28:58.977 --> 01:29:03.937
and all of this The hype music on the way to the boat Yeah the little rituals and.
01:29:05.117 --> 01:29:10.417
Occasional secret spot, like that, all of that stuff or the secret lure or the
01:29:10.417 --> 01:29:16.197
special color that Papa always uses, you know, those things I think help make
01:29:16.197 --> 01:29:18.437
it special. And I think you have to have that.
01:29:18.617 --> 01:29:22.137
Like, cause you can't, yeah, you can't always go limit out. You can't always
01:29:22.137 --> 01:29:24.957
go catch the biggest fish you ever caught, you know?
01:29:25.157 --> 01:29:30.917
So it's tough. You know, and, you know, in my business, you sell an experience,
01:29:31.077 --> 01:29:33.857
you know, you, you truly are selling an experience.
01:29:34.557 --> 01:29:37.477
You can't make fish bite you can't make
01:29:37.477 --> 01:29:40.417
somebody catch one but if they had
01:29:40.417 --> 01:29:45.697
fun it was worth every dollar to them i mean they caught a good time that that's
01:29:45.697 --> 01:29:49.217
that's a slogan of my business catch a good time it's like man at the end of
01:29:49.217 --> 01:29:56.157
the day fish was bonus and if people come with that mentality that it's a win
01:29:56.157 --> 01:30:00.297
before you even start and what i was saying earlier you know when i first started,
01:30:00.457 --> 01:30:03.877
I would get this anxiety on my way to the boat. It's like, man, what if we don't catch?
01:30:04.297 --> 01:30:07.837
I never met these people. You know, what if, what if they ain't nice?
01:30:07.937 --> 01:30:11.237
You know, what if, what if they mean mugging me?
01:30:11.377 --> 01:30:13.497
You know, when we ain't catching fish, like, where are we going to go?
01:30:13.597 --> 01:30:17.537
And like, before you would even get to the boat, like the day was almost ruined. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:30:17.757 --> 01:30:22.297
It was almost ruined before you got there. And, and I had a buddy of mine who's
01:30:22.297 --> 01:30:25.817
a fishing guide out towards the Texas coast around Lake Calcasieu.
01:30:26.117 --> 01:30:32.817
And he told me one day, he said, man, a you can't make fish bite b you can't
01:30:32.817 --> 01:30:36.217
make people catch them when they're biting and c.
01:30:36.797 --> 01:30:40.317
Never think that it's about the limit man somebody
01:30:40.317 --> 01:30:43.377
comes and catches that one big bull red and it's the biggest fish
01:30:43.377 --> 01:30:46.117
they ever caught well to somebody down here that
01:30:46.117 --> 01:30:49.037
might not be of interest to somebody because they caught them their whole lives
01:30:49.037 --> 01:30:55.597
but to somebody from wisconsin yeah they just pulled in a 40 pound fish and
01:30:55.597 --> 01:31:00.397
it's huge how many pictures can we get you know well dude i used to go you know
01:31:00.397 --> 01:31:02.457
tuna fishing with with uncle donald
01:31:02.457 --> 01:31:08.817
and my strongest memory of going tuna fishing was when i caught a shark.
01:31:10.375 --> 01:31:13.175
The last thing he wanted to catch and it was just a pain in
01:31:13.175 --> 01:31:15.995
his ass you know but i caught a freaking
01:31:15.995 --> 01:31:18.855
shark you know i was like 10 years old and i caught this huge shark
01:31:18.855 --> 01:31:21.615
it's the coolest thing ever i want pictures of it i want to mount it on the wall
01:31:21.615 --> 01:31:24.355
like i want to tell all my friends like he
01:31:24.355 --> 01:31:27.415
spent all the time and money running out there catching live
01:31:27.415 --> 01:31:30.395
bait yeah doing all this stuff for tuna tuna i don't
01:31:30.395 --> 01:31:33.595
remember if we caught one tuna you know but that is the
01:31:33.595 --> 01:31:37.335
reality of it and you're doing the same thing with you know
01:31:37.335 --> 01:31:40.075
with guys that are 40 years old you know
01:31:40.075 --> 01:31:42.895
they see it the same as it's
01:31:42.895 --> 01:31:46.895
the same excitement as a kid would have you know so i
01:31:46.895 --> 01:31:53.835
in 2017 i went to south africa and uh it's something i always wanted to do i
01:31:53.835 --> 01:31:57.715
had a friend of mine who who had passed away that year and it was he was just
01:31:57.715 --> 01:32:01.795
two years older than me it was just an eye-opener it's like man it's not guaranteed
01:32:01.795 --> 01:32:02.995
I'm going to live to be 90.
01:32:04.635 --> 01:32:08.955
Why not live today, right? So I'd always wanted to go hunt in Africa.
01:32:09.015 --> 01:32:13.015
And so I booked this deal. I booked this safari and I'm going hunting.
01:32:13.615 --> 01:32:18.075
And man, I get on the flight and it's 15 and a half hours. I mean, it's a stretch.
01:32:18.675 --> 01:32:22.635
And the excitement that I had was like none other.
01:32:22.795 --> 01:32:27.835
I mean, I never, I was pretty poor growing up. I didn't hire nobody to go do nothing.
01:32:28.035 --> 01:32:30.975
You know what I mean? Look, I had a boat that was on top of a junk pile.
01:32:30.975 --> 01:32:35.175
With a hand-me-down Evin Road, you know, smoked.
01:32:35.735 --> 01:32:40.615
But anyways, you know, the excitement that I had to go and do something and
01:32:40.615 --> 01:32:44.955
kill something that I had never done, it was unbelievable.
01:32:45.635 --> 01:32:51.235
And so I go and I spent a week there and, you know, did a bunch of cool stuff
01:32:51.235 --> 01:32:52.595
and killed a bunch of cool stuff.
01:32:52.595 --> 01:32:59.255
And it didn't hit me until my flight home of this is the same anticipation that
01:32:59.255 --> 01:33:01.935
people get when they come and fishing with me.
01:33:02.795 --> 01:33:10.875
Right. Yeah. And it was like a brick to my face when I realized I have a client
01:33:10.875 --> 01:33:13.175
of mine who they live around Jackson, Mississippi.
01:33:13.455 --> 01:33:17.795
They have a dry erase board. They call me T-Love. That's my nickname.
01:33:18.495 --> 01:33:22.695
She's got 240 days until we fish with T-Love.
01:33:22.895 --> 01:33:25.775
And her husband every now and then will just send me a random picture.
01:33:25.895 --> 01:33:28.835
It's like, man, Genie. The countdown. Yeah, Jeannie's still got a countdown
01:33:28.835 --> 01:33:31.815
going. It's a dry erase board. Dude, that's anticipation.
01:33:32.175 --> 01:33:37.215
Yeah. When you put something on a dry erase board. And it also goes to show
01:33:37.215 --> 01:33:41.555
you those are people who really love coming with you too. Yeah, that's awesome.
01:33:41.775 --> 01:33:44.315
But at the end of the day, on my flight back home from Africa,
01:33:44.375 --> 01:33:50.575
I was like, holy shit, this is the same thing, the same feeling that people
01:33:50.575 --> 01:33:53.455
get when they're coming from Alaska, when they're coming from Alaska.
01:33:54.882 --> 01:34:00.222
Spokane, Washington to come and fish South Louisiana and not just with me,
01:34:00.362 --> 01:34:05.422
but I mean, any other guide on the, on the Louisiana coast, it probably takes
01:34:05.422 --> 01:34:09.522
something like that to, to, to put you back in place and be like, man,
01:34:10.182 --> 01:34:13.222
that's a big game changer for me. And it curbed my business.
01:34:13.362 --> 01:34:18.662
I immediately in 2017, just started thinking about it a different way.
01:34:18.802 --> 01:34:22.302
It's like, man, this person's so excited. You could have had the most crappiest
01:34:22.302 --> 01:34:25.962
morning ever getting to the boat, flat tire, whatever it was,
01:34:26.102 --> 01:34:30.562
diesel pump wasn't working, gas pumper on the diesel pump. No more biscuits.
01:34:30.782 --> 01:34:33.122
Yeah, no more cheese and bacon biscuits.
01:34:33.402 --> 01:34:36.302
Like you could have had the worst morning. But when you show up,
01:34:36.422 --> 01:34:42.542
you better be A plus ready for somebody who's super excited about going fishing in South Louisiana.
01:34:43.202 --> 01:34:48.602
Why not? That's what they're here for. And that's what they had you lined up
01:34:48.602 --> 01:34:50.742
to do, you know, is to take them and show them.
01:34:50.902 --> 01:34:54.062
And again, going back to you, you're selling an experience, you know?
01:34:54.182 --> 01:34:57.802
Like, hey, these are oyster boats working on a side of us. And,
01:34:57.902 --> 01:35:02.102
hey, we might grab a few of them and shuck them on a dock and eat some.
01:35:02.662 --> 01:35:06.002
Yeah. Or, hey, somebody's coming from Alaska and they're not bringing fish home.
01:35:06.042 --> 01:35:08.762
Well, let's fry some on a dock. We got a big fish fryer there.
01:35:08.942 --> 01:35:11.182
Let's fry some on a dock. At least eat what you caught.
01:35:11.762 --> 01:35:17.462
Try it. You know, but for me, man, what a game changer to realize the anticipation
01:35:17.462 --> 01:35:22.722
that people probably get and should get to come to South Louisiana and catch
01:35:22.722 --> 01:35:24.722
fish. fish that you can't catch.
01:35:25.796 --> 01:35:28.376
Anywhere else that's not on the saltwater, you know?
01:35:28.616 --> 01:35:32.176
But it takes something like that. It takes, you know, you getting out of your
01:35:32.176 --> 01:35:36.756
routine to see that. And it was a brick to my face. I guarantee it.
01:35:37.016 --> 01:35:41.296
Gives you more respect for yourself almost. I could sit right here with you
01:35:41.296 --> 01:35:45.076
and remember it like it was yesterday. Just that feeling. I was like, wow.
01:35:45.776 --> 01:35:50.876
I just experienced this really cool experience. And this is what people do when
01:35:50.876 --> 01:35:52.896
they come for a guided trip with me.
01:35:53.156 --> 01:35:55.876
I've never hired a guide in my life. and here
01:35:55.876 --> 01:35:59.216
I am halfway across the world hunting critters
01:35:59.216 --> 01:36:02.096
that I never hunted in my life with a guide
01:36:02.096 --> 01:36:08.596
right all excited amped up can't wait to get there hated to leave you know so
01:36:08.596 --> 01:36:13.016
it was it was definitely a game changer in the way I think about business and
01:36:13.016 --> 01:36:17.516
the way I try to handle my trips as far as you know what people are really here
01:36:17.516 --> 01:36:19.656
for man if somebody drove 10 hours to come
01:36:19.716 --> 01:36:22.676
see me i'm not trying to get back to the dock at 8 30
01:36:22.676 --> 01:36:25.556
in the morning just they've invested in
01:36:25.556 --> 01:36:28.636
you why not give some time you know yeah go throw some jug lines
01:36:28.636 --> 01:36:31.396
yeah i mean just hey go on that booze cruise you
01:36:31.396 --> 01:36:35.056
know go i call it a cajun cruise like go see some alligators pelicans i mean
01:36:35.056 --> 01:36:39.116
we get people who just want to go bird watch right sometimes it's not about
01:36:39.116 --> 01:36:45.136
fishing you know somebody wants to go see the pelicans nesting on coon point
01:36:45.136 --> 01:36:49.116
you know or wherever it may be hey we You want to see whatever.
01:36:49.656 --> 01:36:52.976
Mm-hmm. Man, you kind of got to be, you got to be a historian.
01:36:53.456 --> 01:36:55.936
All around guy. You got to be a photographer. Yeah, man.
01:36:56.716 --> 01:37:00.276
Got to take good photos. Yeah. I bet you getting good with your,
01:37:00.276 --> 01:37:01.616
your angles and all. Yeah, man.
01:37:02.996 --> 01:37:06.956
Got to crop out those backgrounds and all the good. Hold it way out here for me.
01:37:08.236 --> 01:37:11.256
How, how far are you armed? We'll make him look like a keeper.
01:37:11.556 --> 01:37:13.436
Make him look like 40 pounds. God.
01:37:15.002 --> 01:37:18.242
Side note, my grandpa did have a toilet on his boat. Nice. Custom.
01:37:19.402 --> 01:37:21.602
Let's call it a toilet seat. There
01:37:21.602 --> 01:37:26.382
you go. He installed a toilet seat onto his, do you know what he had?
01:37:28.542 --> 01:37:33.302
Might have been a luma weld or something. Yeah. Yeah. A little custom seat.
01:37:33.642 --> 01:37:36.022
Custom seat. Just in case nature comes.
01:37:36.482 --> 01:37:39.882
Custom seat. You don't have a toilet seat. No. You got spot lock,
01:37:39.982 --> 01:37:42.742
but you don't have a toilet seat. No. I hadn't got that far yet.
01:37:43.782 --> 01:37:50.882
I hadn't got that far. Well, man, how about some secret, super special secret fishing tips?
01:37:52.602 --> 01:37:56.282
Well, I don't know if I have any. Is it easier than it looks?
01:37:56.562 --> 01:37:59.522
You know, I think it's as hard as you make it.
01:37:59.742 --> 01:38:04.322
Let's say that. How about this? For someone that's just amped up,
01:38:04.502 --> 01:38:09.142
looking to just can't wait to go catch trout, give them one of these.
01:38:09.322 --> 01:38:11.802
Give them like a, hey, try this next time.
01:38:12.422 --> 01:38:16.362
Give them like one of those. Yeah, I think, man, you got to just keep going.
01:38:16.662 --> 01:38:20.362
Keep moving until you find them. I mean, it really is a stick and move deal.
01:38:20.562 --> 01:38:23.462
You know, if you go to one place and they're supposed to be there and they're
01:38:23.462 --> 01:38:29.242
not, you might give it a little time, but you hate to miss the bite when the bite is happening.
01:38:29.642 --> 01:38:33.902
So if they're not there in 10 minutes, 15 minutes, I probably would make a move,
01:38:33.942 --> 01:38:36.462
you know, and just keep moving until you find them.
01:38:36.642 --> 01:38:39.902
They're going to be fished somewhere. I mean, again, like I said earlier,
01:38:40.022 --> 01:38:42.522
is how many fish we passed up looking for fish.
01:38:43.142 --> 01:38:46.482
Like so much water, so many points, so much reef.
01:38:47.002 --> 01:38:49.662
They're putting reefs in, you know, artificial reefs. I mean,
01:38:49.742 --> 01:38:53.682
they're doing all these things to try to keep our estuary like it is and should be.
01:38:54.022 --> 01:38:57.502
I mean, there's just so many places to fish. So just keep fishing.
01:38:58.382 --> 01:39:01.562
I hope I get to keep fishing. Me too. Fishing is good.
01:39:01.782 --> 01:39:06.902
Me too. I can't tell you that on my day off is what I want to go do,
01:39:07.022 --> 01:39:08.742
which is where my hunting comes into play.
01:39:08.742 --> 01:39:11.682
You know but man if my kids want to go fishing i still
01:39:11.682 --> 01:39:16.002
can't wait to go and guide them you know my wife will want to go on a boat and
01:39:16.002 --> 01:39:20.482
rip some reds and i'll let her get after it she tells all her friends too that
01:39:20.482 --> 01:39:24.502
she kicked my ass on fishing but i also tell her that she had a fishing guide
01:39:24.502 --> 01:39:29.142
yeah good one she cheated yeah so she wouldn't have got there if it wasn't for me.
01:39:30.402 --> 01:39:34.382
All right any last closing things what's the name of your your real estate company
01:39:34.382 --> 01:39:36.462
how did people reach you there? Yeah.
01:39:36.722 --> 01:39:43.382
So real estate, I mean, that was, like I told you, my COVID come to Jesus was,
01:39:43.382 --> 01:39:45.002
you know, doing some real estate.
01:39:45.162 --> 01:39:49.062
And I started working with a place called Open Season Properties.
01:39:49.222 --> 01:39:52.682
And what we do and specialize in is recreational hunting land,
01:39:53.122 --> 01:39:57.402
ranches, farms, acreage in Mississippi, Louisiana.
01:39:57.602 --> 01:40:03.382
We've got six states that were licensed and selling land in.
01:40:03.902 --> 01:40:06.042
Me personally, Louisiana and Mississippi.
01:40:07.682 --> 01:40:11.782
The guy that I work with, Thad Miller, who's been a friend of mine for many
01:40:11.782 --> 01:40:13.262
years and a fishing client of mine.
01:40:14.895 --> 01:40:19.695
Is he's one of the partners in this business. And we made an elk hunt one time
01:40:19.695 --> 01:40:23.855
in Colorado and just driving 24 hours straight, he and I, and we'd,
01:40:23.855 --> 01:40:27.695
we'd eat sleep for five hours and I'd drive and we'd take, you know,
01:40:27.935 --> 01:40:29.815
between coffee and diesel breaks.
01:40:29.955 --> 01:40:33.715
We, we just made the whole stretch and, but we got to talk about a lot of things.
01:40:33.855 --> 01:40:37.675
And he said, you know, you, you're fishing 200 and something days a year now.
01:40:37.895 --> 01:40:40.775
You'd, I might've been farty at the time.
01:40:41.115 --> 01:40:44.055
He said, what, you know, what are you going to want to do when you're 50?
01:40:45.095 --> 01:40:48.455
Like, I don't know, but I don't want to be fishing that many days.
01:40:48.575 --> 01:40:50.795
You know, he said, you ever thought about getting your real estate license?
01:40:50.935 --> 01:40:55.755
And I said, no, I never did. I really don't have time to go show a house.
01:40:55.895 --> 01:40:58.835
Or he said, no, no, I'm talking about hunting land, like what,
01:40:58.915 --> 01:41:00.595
you know, what I buy and sell.
01:41:00.735 --> 01:41:03.895
And I said, no, I never thought about it. And he's a guy, I mean,
01:41:03.975 --> 01:41:07.855
look, if he tells you the moon's made of cheese, you better get some crackers.
01:41:08.135 --> 01:41:10.795
You know, he's just that kind of guy. He's a straight shooter.
01:41:11.275 --> 01:41:13.535
And, you know, one of my fondest friends.
01:41:14.115 --> 01:41:17.335
And, you know, when COVID came around, it was just an eye opener,
01:41:17.455 --> 01:41:19.515
man, how many small businesses just
01:41:19.515 --> 01:41:24.835
tanked and how many people were really affected, lost lives, so forth.
01:41:25.635 --> 01:41:29.295
But what was a backup plan? You know, what if I did break a leg?
01:41:29.995 --> 01:41:33.575
Who's going to go run the boat? The boat ain't moving. I'm not getting paid.
01:41:34.015 --> 01:41:36.775
That means bills aren't getting paid. It's just a domino effect.
01:41:36.975 --> 01:41:41.635
And I took the time and got my real estate license for Louisiana and Mississippi
01:41:41.635 --> 01:41:44.255
as well, just to pursue it.
01:41:44.535 --> 01:41:50.575
And again, I think at this point, it's really about people knowing what you do and that you do it.
01:41:50.815 --> 01:41:53.375
It could just be representing somebody as a buyer.
01:41:54.435 --> 01:42:00.055
How many people get on my boat that are hunters, fishermen, or how many people
01:42:00.055 --> 01:42:02.275
that buy land enjoy fishing?
01:42:02.475 --> 01:42:06.115
So it kind of went hand in hand that every single person that stepped on the
01:42:06.115 --> 01:42:12.315
boat was a potential buyer, but every single buyer was a potential fishing client, you know?
01:42:12.335 --> 01:42:18.055
So what a cool way to just weave two businesses to where you can get fish and
01:42:18.055 --> 01:42:19.255
hunting land all at once.
01:42:19.795 --> 01:42:24.675
Yeah. So that was something I started in 2021. Yeah.
01:42:25.158 --> 01:42:29.498
You know, I always give myself in a business strategy. I give myself five years
01:42:29.498 --> 01:42:31.598
just to see like, eh, what's it going to be?
01:42:31.678 --> 01:42:35.018
It was the same with fishing, you know, like, is it going to roll or is it going
01:42:35.018 --> 01:42:37.658
to be like a fish flopping out of water, you know?
01:42:38.278 --> 01:42:42.738
But I think five years is realistic, you know, like how, where do you see yourself in five years?
01:42:42.918 --> 01:42:47.458
And so that, that's kind of the goal for the future is if I could minimalize
01:42:47.458 --> 01:42:49.938
a little bit of fishing and still be,
01:42:49.938 --> 01:42:52.818
you know do land deals as well
01:42:52.818 --> 01:42:55.798
just you know when as i get older
01:42:55.798 --> 01:42:58.698
who knows man maybe it'll i might fish a
01:42:58.698 --> 01:43:02.058
lot less and do a lot more land right you know
01:43:02.058 --> 01:43:05.358
but but at the end of the day it's just something else that i decided that
01:43:05.358 --> 01:43:09.278
i wanted to do something that's you know being a hunter you know i've always
01:43:09.278 --> 01:43:14.118
enjoyed being in the woods and finding things arrowheads and you know all the
01:43:14.118 --> 01:43:18.558
cool things you could see and and some people might not even know about you
01:43:18.558 --> 01:43:22.298
know like just seeing the sun come up through the trees or a deer come out and
01:43:22.298 --> 01:43:23.398
the deer not know you there.
01:43:23.538 --> 01:43:28.478
And you just watch that deer do what a deer does, you know, or it's just,
01:43:28.598 --> 01:43:29.878
uh, it was always a cool thing.
01:43:30.278 --> 01:43:34.978
So yeah, I, I started that during COVID and just to see how it goes,
01:43:35.138 --> 01:43:38.738
you know, and some things have popped and some things have not popped.
01:43:38.878 --> 01:43:44.398
So it just, it really depends, you know, of how the future holds.
01:43:44.618 --> 01:43:46.078
Of course, interest rates have been high.
01:43:46.338 --> 01:43:49.738
I mean, we got new, new president.
01:43:50.098 --> 01:43:53.158
I mean, there are new things coming in. So who knows what the future holds for
01:43:53.158 --> 01:43:59.098
anything, but I do feel like people are probably a little more comfortable with spending money.
01:43:59.578 --> 01:44:02.898
You know, so feels like it. Yeah. People are a little more comfy,
01:44:03.138 --> 01:44:07.418
which is a good thing. I mean, obviously things have been expensive for a long time now.
01:44:08.638 --> 01:44:13.098
So yeah. Summer loaded up already. Yeah. For me, man, summers,
01:44:13.098 --> 01:44:15.998
I'm probably booking like August, September right now.
01:44:16.618 --> 01:44:20.738
Yeah. So it's, and you know, what, what happened was is people just started
01:44:20.738 --> 01:44:25.558
doing, if I fish May the 5th, let's put us on for next year, May 5th. We'll see you.
01:44:26.018 --> 01:44:30.478
Gotcha. So booking a year in advance, what it, it gets busy fast. Yeah.
01:44:30.878 --> 01:44:33.918
You do any marketing? You do any like emails to your clients,
01:44:34.038 --> 01:44:35.618
stuff like that? Like, Hey, just reminder.
01:44:35.978 --> 01:44:40.478
Yeah. Just, just text messages that, you know, a lot of my people I still keep
01:44:40.478 --> 01:44:44.838
in contact with weekly, monthly, just, Hey, how's it going up there?
01:44:44.838 --> 01:44:51.418
As y'all harvest tobacco or whatever network they're in, it's friendships.
01:44:51.758 --> 01:44:53.938
Right. So you keep in touch with those people, but-
01:44:55.423 --> 01:45:02.303
No marketing as far as, hey, you should come fishing with me tomorrow or next year or whatever it is.
01:45:03.523 --> 01:45:07.363
That business is kind of established, which is cool. Yeah. I think you're in
01:45:07.363 --> 01:45:09.043
a good spot. Yeah, man. Feels good.
01:45:10.483 --> 01:45:12.943
All right, dude. I appreciate it. Appreciate the conversation.
01:45:13.223 --> 01:45:17.243
Man, thanks for having me. I learned a lot. I hope so. Come fishing. I learned a lot.
01:45:17.763 --> 01:45:23.203
I'm going to have to go show you up on your own boat. As long as you bring jerky, you come on a boat.
01:45:23.203 --> 01:45:28.443
I always bring I always bring food I like Anytime I ever go On anyone's boat
01:45:28.443 --> 01:45:32.203
I'm bringing food You got to You never know I get to decide What the food is
01:45:32.203 --> 01:45:36.483
But I'm bringing food And if I go to anyone's camp I'm cooking I like it That's
01:45:36.483 --> 01:45:41.883
how it works That's all the fun in it Yeah Yeah man Cooking I love cooking Same,
01:45:42.863 --> 01:45:46.243
I hope to get on the boat With you Yeah man Let's do it Yeah We're gonna line
01:45:46.243 --> 01:45:53.343
it up Definitely And uh So Reeling Good Charters On uh Facebook Yeah Facebook Yeah,
01:45:53.843 --> 01:45:55.723
Facebook, Instagram, at Reeling Good Charters.
01:45:56.063 --> 01:46:01.583
Probably www.reelinggoodcharters.com. Give you a little more information as
01:46:01.583 --> 01:46:03.603
far as rates, that sort of thing.
01:46:03.743 --> 01:46:06.623
And if you're booked up, you got some other guys. Yeah, if I'm booked,
01:46:06.703 --> 01:46:09.343
I got a good network of guys that I'll put somebody with.
01:46:09.583 --> 01:46:12.743
I'd prefer them be in my boat, but, you know, hey, at the end of the day,
01:46:13.163 --> 01:46:18.663
if somebody wants to come and I can't make it, then, you know, that's just the breaks.
01:46:19.543 --> 01:46:26.723
But 985-856-8167 is how they can find me. Text message, call.
01:46:27.723 --> 01:46:32.563
Phone goes off all times of the day. Good deal, man. And I appreciate you.
01:46:32.663 --> 01:46:34.423
It's fun fishing. Yeah, let's do it. All right, dude.
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Let them let them feel that, too.
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And if you loved it, please leave us a five star review. That'll really help out.
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And if you only loved it like four stars, please do not leave a review.
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Same thing with the one through three. Not interested in any of those. Only five stars.
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If you have any personal questions or comments about the episode shoot them
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over to Boudoir's Meat Market on Facebook or Instagram,
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and we'll reach back out and if you have any ideas for any cool future guests
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please shoot those over too we're always interested in hearing,
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who else is out there and what kind of cool stories we might be able to bring into this place,
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see you next time thanks for listening,
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Bye.
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Music.
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