Ep. 4 - Scotty Smith : 2nd Degree BJJ Black Belt / Preparing the Next Generation
Miracles in Meat Podcast | Ep. 4 – Scotty Smith: 2nd Degree BJJ Black Belt & Preparing the Next Generation
Beyond the Mats: Life Lessons Through Jiu-Jitsu & Martial Arts
In this episode of Miracles in Meat, Shane Thibodaux and Beau Bourgeois sit down with Scotty Smith, a 2nd-degree Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt and owner of Next Generation Martial Arts in Thibodaux, Louisiana. Scotty shares how jiu-jitsu teaches more than self-defense—it’s about discipline, perseverance, and life skills that shape character.
Through personal stories and reflections, Shane and Beau discuss the impact of martial arts on their own lives and family business, drawing parallels between butchery, business, and the resilience martial arts instills.
Inside This Episode:
🥋 The hidden layers of jiu-jitsu and why it’s more than just a sport
🥋 The value of hard-earned black belts and what it takes to reach the top
🥋 Life lessons from martial arts that apply to business, family, and leadership
🥋 How Next Generation Martial Arts is shaping young minds in Thibodaux, LA
Why You Should Listen:
Whether you're a martial artist, business owner, or parent, this episode offers a powerful conversation on discipline, tradition, and personal growth. Learn how Scotty’s philosophy of training builds leaders—not just fighters.
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Transcript
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Music.
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You're listening to the Miracles in Meat Podcast. I'm Shane Thibodeau,
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a fourth-generation butcher at one of the oldest meat markets in the world.
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My great-grandfather started this business by slaughtering one cow or pig at
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a time and selling the cuts door-to-door on horse and buggy.
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Today, our products are enjoyed across the globe.
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I'll attempt to give you some insight as to how we got here and explore the
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challenges we've had along the way. At Bourgeois, our mission is to preserve
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our heritage generation after generation through legendary Cajun flavors and
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the development of relationships, not customers.
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Since 1891, Bourgeois has maintained age-old culinary traditions that fuel the
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South Louisiana lifestyle.
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Over the past 133 years, our Cajun products have gained global recognition,
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and for tens of thousands of
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folks around the world, the Bourgeois Cajun Lady logo is a symbol of home.
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Today the fourth generation butchers sit at the nine foot maple block with loyal
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customers to discuss the adventures skills and passions that guide each of their legacies,
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these conversations will become priceless resources for future generations of
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any industry this is our way of maintaining the spirit purpose and traditions
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of our lost arts in the world of change 133 years four generations we're just getting started.
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All right, this is episode number four. I have Scotty Smith,
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who is the owner of Next Generation Martial Arts in Thibodeau.
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Scotty's kids jujitsu program is absolutely impressive.
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If you ever get to stop by on an afternoon and go watch that class and what
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happens in there and how he can keep, you know, 50, 60 kids entertained and engaged,
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it's unbelievable to watch. It really is. It's awesome. It's really cool.
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And, you know, it's a lot deeper than it looks from an outsider's perspective. I know Scotty very well.
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And I know I can see behind the things he's doing and the things he's saying in that class.
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And if everyone knew what was going on in his head, I think it'd be a little
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more special to him like it is to me.
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My kids have been training with scotty for a while now and
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while they're young this is something that
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my wife and i decided but while they're young and we're
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making the decisions for them and we know what's best for them jujitsu
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is going to be a non-negotiable it's you know they can still do
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sports and other things on the side but that isn't
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going to replace what they're going
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to learn from jiu-jitsu outside of it
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being you know self-defense and and
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a martial art talking about the life skills scotty's
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vision for these kids and for the
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future of our youth goes far beyond sports and hobbies and extracurriculars
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he's approaching martial arts as a life skill that these kids can use to accomplish
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anything you know now or later in life for us we you know we understand these benefits and it's,
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it's no different than sending them to school.
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That's how we're viewing it. You know, it's, you, you need to learn how to swim,
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right? It's the same thing.
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Scotty can, you know, he's a little different than maybe some of these other gym owners.
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He can care less about how well a child might place in a tournament or if they
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can do a fancy submission.
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He's really focusing on fundamentals such as respect and courage and confidence
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and, you know, verbal communication skills, leadership, humility,
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all these things that we need.
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And there's no doubt in my mind that the kids who are running through his class
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will be prepared for anything.
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Any challenge that's thrown to them now and, you know, when they're 30,
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they're going to be able to pull tools that they learned from Scotty's class.
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And I don't think it'd be fair to talk about our education system or even like
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youth leadership in our city or parish without mentioning Scotty.
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So here we go. See what we can get into. to
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miracles and meat podcast i'm shane and i have my
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cousin beau bourgeois the owner of bourgeois meat market beau say hi so everyone
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knows your voice hey guys that's beau and then we have with us scotty smith
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scotty smith say hi you're just trying to sound scary am i trying to sound scary Yeah. Oh, God.
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What did you get yourself into? Oh, dude. No, no. I have no idea why my voice sounds like this.
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All right. That's Scotty. And Scotty is a second degree black belt in Brazilian jujitsu.
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And Bo and I have been training jujitsu for quite some time under Scotty.
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And Bo has been Bo's actually the one who's gotten me started in jiu-jitsu,
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several years ago but Bo Bo started
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when I was a sophomore in high school like 2002
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or 3 and Scotty started when oh seven and I was like July June yeah July of
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07 so right around 17 years so and then I met Scotty around 2016 ish,
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through Bo.
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We started training in back of the, there was a classroom behind Hoffman's in
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Thibodeau and Scotty was renting out some classroom space and he had some mats
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down and Bo was just picking it back up.
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He'd maybe take some time off. You were coming back from Tulane, right?
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Yeah, like six years off. Yeah. So Bo had taken a long time off and then getting
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back into it and begged me to go train with him and prove to me why I needed to train with him.
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At the time I was, I had just come out of the Marine Corps and I was like 210
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and I was, I was powerlifting and I was my strongest ever.
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And I was, I just thought I was awesome, but Bo could just do,
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and I also had some, some, you know, a lot of time spent grappling in the Marines.
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And I really thought I was something until Bo wanted to do some drills with
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me at the, at the gym and had me try to hold him down on the,
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you know, hold him down on the mat or he held me down and would have me try
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to get up, you know, get to my feet or something like that.
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And he just wrecked me and I didn't understand it.
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I didn't understand how, how him being weaker than me could do the things he
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was doing and could hold me down and submit me whenever he wanted and do anything.
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My strength didn't matter.
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So that confused the crap out of me. And, and I took the bait and went to first
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few classes with him, with Scotty.
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Bo, when did you meet Scotty? Originally, I met Scotty when he first started
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training in probably 07 or 08.
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I was at Nichols at the time. We were training in Bayou Blue and I use a fresh,
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white belt, but he was, I was a blue belt at the time and he was already pretty
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good. And so that was aggravating.
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But, uh, then I don't think he remembers me, but I don't, we,
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I didn't see him again until 2000, late 2015, when I started training again in Houma at Evolution.
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It was Waffle's place, but I think Scotty was teaching and he was a brown belt
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about, I think he got his black belt like within six months of me coming back or something like that.
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But yeah, then he, then why did you open the school in Thibodeau?
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For some reason, I want to say it was Jonah's fault. Is that true?
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Partially, partially. So I remember opening the school.
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Well, I got to step back. I can't say I remember opening before I tell why.
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So I remember as a blue belt. So when I decided to stop fighting,
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I just had the dumb idea that I'd be able to open a business with no clue and no idea of how to do it.
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And I started looking, I said, well, where are there no jujitsu schools around?
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And I wanted it to be close enough to where I lived so that I can actually drive
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somewhere, but somewhere that, you know, I thought couldn't be a good spot to open.
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And so I just started looking at the map and I'm like, well,
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Thibodeau's 30 minutes from where Waffle's at.
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It shouldn't conflict with any student base there.
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And Blacklist was in Houma, so it made sense to go about a half hour away.
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And that was the initial reason. Like, I didn't know anybody in Thibodeau.
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Didn't know a thing about the city.
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I just knew there was Thibodeau if I went that way. Because it's so far away
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from home. Because it's so far away from home.
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But you knew the people there would be a little better.
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I didn't know anything about the people. You got to remember,
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look, I was a blue belt at the time, right?
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And I, so you're talking about 08, 09 when I started thinking this.
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Like, again, I didn't know anybody there. I didn't really know anything about
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the people there, but I thought it was kind of the same.
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And then Jonah started training
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somewhere I think Jonah started training right
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at the tail end of my blue belt and maybe a few weeks before
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I got purple so it was like maybe 2011 so
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real quick before we go go too far into jiu-jitsu
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remember that most people that are going to listen to this they don't understand
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what really what jiu-jitsu is yet and we'll get to that but they also don't
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have any of the terminology that we use they don't they don't know what a blue
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belt is so let's quickly explain the belt system when we say blue belt or brown belt or whatever.
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So for the adult rankings you start as a white belt like any martial art and
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then the next progression is blue then purple then brown then black the kids
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have a whole nother belt structure but that that's like a bunch of belts it's
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not we're talking about and you know you start you sign up you get your white
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belt and then roughly what's it how many years to black belt,
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uh like eight and a half somewhere around there
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that that'll kind of help and that's that's training
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how often i was training too man i was
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training teaching competing fighting so
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i was on the mats at least five to six days a week during during that eight
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years on average i would say i would say yeah probably average of five teaching
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multiple times a day so i think i think people People don't understand that
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when they hear it, when they just hear whatever,
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you know, my uncle is a black belt or my uncle is whatever.
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They probably don't think about that when it comes to jujitsu,
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which we'll get back to jujitsu.
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But let's talk about your first time in the meat market.
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When was that? And what do you remember about it? So I remember being a kid
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and it was actually my dad.
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It's one of the one of the members I do have as a kid with him.
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And it was, I don't remember my age, but I remember him talking about the jerky.
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And we drove all the way to Thibodeau from Houma to come buy some jerky.
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And I do remember walking in, seeing the market, because it's an old market,
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just seeing it does look pretty much exactly the same as I remember it as a kid.
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But yeah, it was to buy some beef jerky when, I don't know, eight,
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nine, maybe 10 years old, somewhere around there.
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I don't remember anything else outside of that and trying to remember if we
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never really made it a frequent stop,
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but it was like a special stop, it's like, we were going to get jerky and he
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drove to Thibodeau to go get it, it was an hour commute, you know, total to go get jerky.
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So that is something I do remember as a kid and yeah, he would do that periodically,
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not, not very often, but yeah. Nice.
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So what do you get these days? well i don't
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get a whole lot of stuff anymore because i try to send my wife to
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go pick everything but everything up but i will stop
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if i'm passing so a lot of times i'll catch like
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anytime i go to get a haircut right i go i still go back to home to get my haircut
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with neil dubois at it's called royal cuts so i stop and i grab a a boot and
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burrito every time i pass and i try to get in and out and just pass grab it
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give me a water and drive to my haircut yeah but hold up
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i still stop you still borrowing that uh smoking pit
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pretty regular yeah probably need
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to start doing it more but yeah so i'll
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smoke some pork butts and we get the meat to do that and that's that's kind
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of like a special thing now like people start asking like okay can you make
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some pork butts for whatever right so like whether it's smoking something for
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i don't know an individual that
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wants for a party or like blacklist with derrick bro he started really
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running pretty good tournament as a cancer benefit for their charity.
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And we do smoke for that annually.
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So like, I know y'all sponsor the event and we kind of do the same.
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So we borrow them. I saw Warriors. Yeah, the Warriors of Hope.
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Which is, yeah, it's a, it's a real good local charity and they,
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they keep the money pretty, pretty local and they help out a lot of people.
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So they actually go to the place and they pay the medical bills for the individual
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instead of sending it off to some insurance or whatever.
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So it's a pretty neat thing they, they have going with that.
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And what makes a good pork butt? Time.
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Time. I think, I think what I've figured out so far, and that's up for people
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to figure out if they They think it's good or not, but what I like is just smoking
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it with post oak wood and,
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you know, you just got to manage a fire and getting good airflow on the, on the meat.
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That's what I like about the smoker that you guys have. It's,
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it's a good smoker and it's easy to run.
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Like it's, it's way easier than the one, the one that I have at my house because
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the firebox is bigger and I think you can hold heat better because it's,
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it's, it's an actual smoker.
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It's not just a job that you picked up at, you know, Academy, like I have at the house.
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But yeah it definitely cooks cooks real well
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what's wrong with the pellet smokers and stuff why
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not just get a pellet smoker throw a hook butt on and go inside watch some fights
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so this is something i've been thinking about right i've been thinking about
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getting one just because i want to be lazy sometimes and still have smoked meat
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but the reality is it's just not as good,
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it's not and it can't be so like
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what a lot of people i don't think realize about burning actual wood
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is there sugars in the wood and you have your moisture
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content all that you're not getting any of that stuff in the pellet so the
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pellets yeah you know if
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you use the pellet grill and you're calling a barbecue you you got
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a smoky oven you're not really burning wood
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that's that's the way I look at and that's why none of those big places you
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go to in Texas that when you you think you have good barbecue somewhere and
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then you go to Central Texas and you you eat at at the well-known places in
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that area and you bite the food and you just can't understand how it tastes
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so good with so little ingredients.
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It's all because of the way that they smoke it with the wood.
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It's a totally different thing. And they'll tell you the same,
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like you're not going to get that out of the pellet smoker.
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You might be able to get something that tastes decent, you know?
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And if you're, if you, if you don't have the time to like sit by a fire and
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watch it and shovel coals and, you know, build a good fire and check the wood
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to make sure it's heavy enough at certain points.
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Like you, You can get by with a pellet smoker and you might be able to impress
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somebody that's, you know, not eating a whole lot of barbecue,
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but anyone that kind of knows what it's supposed to taste like and what it can
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taste like, they'll sniff it out in a heartbeat.
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It's just not the same. It's not the same. And that's one thing that I do love
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that you guys still do over here is y'all still, y'all haven't given into any
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pellet smokers or any commercial smokers when it comes down to your jerky.
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And I think that's why y'all sell it all over the world. And a lot of times
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that gets missed. that gets missed. It's way easier to do it the other way.
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Kind of like i tell tell the kids like if it's too easy and it doesn't have
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any value it's not worth it you know if it's hard it's probably worth doing
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it's good stuff that'd been my argument too
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you go to aaron franklin's and terry blacks and all
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that he i'm sure if they could get a a
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good product out of a pellet smokers they wouldn't
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be uh up all night smoking i mean dude like terry
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blacks and then i try to tell this to anybody that's interested
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in barbecue like if you go to the terry blacks what i do know about going there
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is they're cool and you can go on the back and they're happy to
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show you around the smokers and you get to go look at those big old i don't
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know thousand gallon smokers that they run they got three of them in austin
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and the fire boxes are i don't know 30 inches around and they're deep and big
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and they have so much wood stacked up on that back fence and they go through
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like a the whole width of the fence in like a week,
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Like it's a stupid amount of wood, but I mean, they're running the smokers like
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daily, all day. Like they're constantly running the smokers.
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And I think they work everybody in three shifts, three to eight hour shifts,
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and they have to cycle them in and rotate them just to be able to keep up with
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the demand of that place.
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Because I mean, dude, they're doing, I don't know, probably 300 briskets a day
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plus the sausage and whatever else they're doing.
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That's a ridiculous amount of meat. and they
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would not have that flavor with a with a pellet smoker you know
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and it's funny it's funny like like even like joe rogan right so you'll
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hear joe rogan a while back a few years ago he was really big on the tragers
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and when he moved to austin he went to terry blacks and you can look on like
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his instagram feed and he'll start saying stuff about terry blacks and now he
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i think he's He's doing the same thing,
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like burning his own wood and not saying he wouldn't use the Traeger or anything anymore,
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but he notices the difference because there's an enormous difference,
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you know, it's, it's not the same thing.
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And it's the tinkering that's involved too. For people who like to get into
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what they're doing, building a fire is cool.
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Like you can't deny that it's, it's cool to just sit there and watch it and
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make a decision on what you want to happen next.
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And then you have to figure out how to, how to do it, you know, and you can fail and you
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can waste time and you can you know not impress
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people with with your crappy pork butt if
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it comes out wrong but it's cool I love that that tinkering aspect what about
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that place in the looling you talked about Oh God those kinds of condos is good
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man he's he's as good as you're gonna get around here I don't think there's
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anybody better as far as pure barbecue like smoked pork butts and.
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Brisket for sure brisket i think i think pork butt you probably have a few different
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things that people do around that equivalent but as far as briskets like beef
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the way he does the beef is
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pretty pretty much on par with with a place like terry black's he's really good
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though but sometimes man like a couple times i've went it's been like hit or
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miss so i don't know if it was maybe they cut a meat that day or maybe he was
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running behind but generally he's he's very very
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good, but it's just hard to get out there, man.
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Like he's, he's only serving food one day a week.
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And as far as barbecue, I think he serves like burgers or tacos or something
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like that on Thursday, but Friday is his barbecue day.
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And man, he's, he's good, dude. And it's just tough to get there.
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Tough to get there. You need to make plans to go out there on a Friday.
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Oh dude, go there and like, get like some of the boudin that he makes is really
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something I think to y'all be interested like really interested in trying because
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uh he does like brisket boudin
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he makes it himself yeah so he smokes the brisket and i think what he
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doesn't sell like if he doesn't sell out of some or maybe he cuts some
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and puts it on the side yeah but he puts it in his boudin and that's
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probably one of my favorite things over there is his sounds cool the
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brisket boudin some of the stuff he does with the boudin he's got
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kind of a mexican flair to some of the stuff and yeah
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it's just good he what else
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did he do that's really really good so he's got a good pork butt
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his briskets are always good some of the
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stuff that he does every once in a while i may not be the
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biggest fan of but it's just because some of the flavors aren't like what i
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want i'm not a big sauce person but in general man he's he's really really solid
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briskets briskets the thing because like i'm no pit master but i can make a
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a butter some spare ribs come out pretty good but But, man,
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a brisket or short ribs or something, that stuff is hard.
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Yeah. Yeah, dude. So I haven't done any beef in a long time.
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It's been a while since I've done some beef. Actually, the last time I did beef, I screwed it up.
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So I had the smoker, and I was doing, it might have been the last time I did
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the ones for Derek for the charity event.
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I think I did five butts. I think I did five butts that day.
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And then I had a brisket. and I made a stupid mistake and I put the brisket
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too close to the firebox thinking it was still going to be okay and I charred
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all the bottom of the brisket.
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Everything else came out great, but that brisket was, dude, I should have not done that.
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I really messed that piece of meat up.
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But yeah, I've been practicing with pork butts to try to do a brisket well.
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Brisket's tough. So your son, Ty, and also your sister, Kristen,
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both work for us at the Tibro location.
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What's that like? Ty's got his first job. He lives at home, but he also kind
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of lives on his own, right? Yeah.
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What's that like? What's that like right now as part of your parenting journey?
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So with him, he's a pretty independent individual as far as like I don't have to worry about him.
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I don't have to worry about him being like, he's going to do some dumb stuff
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because he's, he's 18, but he's not going to do anything idiotic for the most part.
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I guess I shouldn't say that depending, depending on what we're talking about.
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But I guess what I mean is like, I don't have to worry about him going out and
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getting on drugs or anything like that.
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So part of what I wanted to be able to do is get them around like good mentors
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and good people in his workplace, because I remember how bad it was for me when I was that age.
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So when I was 18, I worked at Gulf Island and you have no idea what you're getting
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yourself into when you're working with people from all over,
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right? People that are just trying to get a job.
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And so I remember some of the characters that I had to be around in that, in that line of work.
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And, and let's just say, it's probably not the best place to start trying to
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get influences from people or having people influence you where every,
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every single time you turn around, somebody's screaming at you or hollering
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at you or cussing you out.
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It doesn't really build good good character i
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think it builds a lot of negative character so when y'all agreed to let him
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work it was at least a burden off of my back to say like okay i know he's around
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a bunch of other good men and they'll be able to shoot him straight and you
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know make sure he stays in line with some stuff you know so so that was a big
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part of me wanting him to be able to work with y'all
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just to kind of give him some guidance and mentorship and in life just about
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being a man Because, you know, like we all know, like you can,
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your dad can tell you sometimes and you're not necessarily going to listen to
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it just because it's your dad.
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And I think that's helped a lot with actually he and I for him being able to
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take criticism and not get too angry because he hears the same,
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similar type of message on a regular basis, constantly with being around the market.
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So I think just being, just being around good people, I mean,
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you have a really, really good, good group of guys that, that stick together over there.
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And I think that's all just, you know, probably a part of what your family has
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done over the past hundred something years with the market, you know?
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I think it's pretty awesome. So, Scotty, you're a good dad.
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I see you with your kids and, you know, with all the kids that you teach every day at jujitsu.
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But, yeah, what was your childhood like? You told us about your first job, but tell us more.
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Yeah. So, as a kid, see, that's a tough one because there's going to be a whole
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bunch of different parts.
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So, growing up, parents were divorced when I was pretty young.
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I was maybe four or five when the divorce started. I don't remember the exact
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time frame. I know by the time I was six, everything was done.
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I remember real early on as a kid kind of having misunderstandings about what
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certain things were supposed to look like as far as relationships or how to act.
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So I grew up to be a pretty rebellious, angry, wild-ish sort of kid.
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And that didn't stop until, man, what age? age.
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I was probably about 17 before I started really thinking about,
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okay, what life is supposed to look like.
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And I remember at that age, all I knew is I wanted a family,
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right? So from the time I was very young, very misguided, I had a stepdad.
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He tried his best, but you know, just nothing really got through.
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And yeah, it took me a long time to figure out what I really wanted to do with
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myself. And even once I thought I had it, I didn't really know.
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So childhood was a mixture of a lot of anger, bad emotions,
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very misguided from certain parts of the family, attempts to be guided in the
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right direction from other sides and not knowing what's right and wrong for
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certain things and being dumb, doing stupid stuff.
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Never really got in any crazy amount of trouble, but But I hung around a lot
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of kids that did end up getting in a lot of trouble.
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A couple of my good friends ended up dying early in their 30s from a heroin overdose.
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Those guys I grew up with, like some of my best friends, actually.
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So I grew up around a bunch of kids like that, that everybody was just misguided
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and not necessarily bad-hearted people, just didn't have the right guidance.
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And I never really fell that deep into that world. but I guess I was just lucky
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enough not to be around the whole wrong group of people.
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And so got to be around 17, met my future wife, and wanted to try to have a family.
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And that's what led me to end up getting a job at Gulf Island and all that other stuff, right?
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So dropped out of high school right when I could, as soon as I could,
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just because I hated school.
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Just bad school system. Ellender High School is not necessarily known for academia.
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They, I think it's just, it is what it is, man.
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You know, wasn't in a high school that pushed me, you know, like you could sleep
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and make it through a class.
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It's like, that's, it's not necessarily a good education, but yeah,
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it took me quitting high school and then having to go to work and really start
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trying to figure out what it is I wanted to do.
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And that's kind of how I ended up finding my way into martial arts honestly
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so that was going to be my question was yeah
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what what redirected you and got you back onto the
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right path but I guess I guess you're telling me it was Naomi yeah that's
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awesome yeah at 17 is probably when
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I started being an idiot so let's hear
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more yeah I
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was an idiot from like 17 to 25 just roaming the streets tip tibido yeah just
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chasing ducks getting yelled at by cops yeah but okay so when did you get started
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in martial arts so i have a younger brother and he started taking karate classes.
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At homa martial arts i think it was called homa h-o-m-a homa oriental martial
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arts it was a was it on west park yeah the blue building on the on the by side
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yeah so he started going over there And the guy that had that school was named
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George Claymore, right?
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And George was a Tang Soo Do guy. So like, like, like Korean karate is basically what it is.
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And my brother started going there, which probably was largely due to me.
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Cause I would just beat on him all the time.
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Cause I'm like, I don't know what else, but I'm gonna make him tough.
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So I'd like just beat him up.
422
00:28:26,672 --> 00:28:30,872
I used to be a mean, mean to that kid, man, probably.
423
00:28:31,937 --> 00:28:35,597
I just knew that he needed to be tough and that's the only way I knew how to do it.
424
00:28:35,617 --> 00:28:39,597
You know? So every time I got in trouble, I got, you know, spanked or hit with
425
00:28:39,597 --> 00:28:41,257
something or whatever it was.
426
00:28:41,657 --> 00:28:44,417
And so it was like, okay, well that'll make him tough.
427
00:28:44,937 --> 00:28:48,897
And I remember one day he started doing this karate class and I thought it was kind of stupid.
428
00:28:49,437 --> 00:28:52,957
And he's a couple of years younger than me. He's like three years younger than me.
429
00:28:53,397 --> 00:28:57,437
And he came back one day and he wanted to spar. So we're playing around in the bedroom.
430
00:28:57,877 --> 00:29:01,017
And I remember thinking, I'm like, ah, he's, he's getting better. right
431
00:29:01,017 --> 00:29:04,457
and so i i said you
432
00:29:04,457 --> 00:29:08,377
know what if he's getting better i'm gonna go too so partially because i didn't
433
00:29:08,377 --> 00:29:11,457
let you a little brother yeah i couldn't let him i couldn't let him beat me
434
00:29:11,457 --> 00:29:14,577
right because i still needed to be his big brother but at the same time also
435
00:29:14,577 --> 00:29:20,537
i also realized that it'd be good to learn that like if he's learning it then
436
00:29:20,537 --> 00:29:24,177
probably wouldn't be bad for me to learn it well Well, I did that for a couple of years.
437
00:29:25,017 --> 00:29:27,757
How old were you? I was 18. Okay.
438
00:29:29,277 --> 00:29:33,377
And did that for a couple of years. And during that timeframe,
439
00:29:33,537 --> 00:29:36,857
I met a guy that I got to be really close with. His name's Cody Horn.
440
00:29:37,057 --> 00:29:39,297
He actually moved. He was in Baton Rouge for a while.
441
00:29:39,537 --> 00:29:42,277
Started doing a lot of real estate stuff and he's moved to Texas.
442
00:29:42,437 --> 00:29:43,937
I want to say he's around College Station now.
443
00:29:44,417 --> 00:29:46,677
But he was one of the main guys that I would train with.
444
00:29:47,597 --> 00:29:52,157
And we would get together on the weekends and we would spar with each other.
445
00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:55,077
And he was a lifeguard at the YMCA.
446
00:29:55,677 --> 00:30:01,537
And he started doing this thing called jujitsu at the YMCA. And I had no idea what it was.
447
00:30:03,238 --> 00:30:06,678
Shows up he points out a couple things and teaches
448
00:30:06,678 --> 00:30:09,358
me like a triangle choke right he didn't know what
449
00:30:09,358 --> 00:30:12,658
he was doing but he just knew that one move and i
450
00:30:12,658 --> 00:30:16,338
thought it was cool and you know a little while later we
451
00:30:16,338 --> 00:30:18,998
start grappling a little bit more often and we would like
452
00:30:18,998 --> 00:30:22,318
go in somebody's house and grappling in a stupid bedroom
453
00:30:22,318 --> 00:30:26,938
right so like we're grappling like look like like this desk right here so i'd
454
00:30:26,938 --> 00:30:31,538
be buried under the desk rolling with a guy and like smashed into a corner like
455
00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:34,718
he's basically just fighting in the rooms like just all out fighting yeah like
456
00:30:34,718 --> 00:30:39,538
and that's kind of what got me started into jiu jitsu before i actually started
457
00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,598
training jiu jitsu which is kind of crazy.
458
00:30:42,338 --> 00:30:46,778
But yeah i mean i even remember going as far back i don't remember if he was at the ymca,
459
00:30:47,418 --> 00:30:51,198
before he was across from terrible was which one was first do you remember across
460
00:30:51,198 --> 00:30:55,498
from terrible was first so i walked into that that facility i say facility was
461
00:30:55,498 --> 00:30:59,238
like a hole in the wall yeah it's like a, like a, it looked like it was a,
462
00:30:59,318 --> 00:31:01,678
like an old mechanic shop or something like that.
463
00:31:02,038 --> 00:31:06,558
And I remember going in there before the Y then where I walked in,
464
00:31:06,618 --> 00:31:10,638
I watched the, I watched the class and I sat down for like an hour and a half,
465
00:31:10,678 --> 00:31:11,978
two hours watching this whole class.
466
00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:14,238
I didn't get on the mat cause I didn't know what to expect.
467
00:31:14,518 --> 00:31:19,638
And I'm watching the dudes and they just broke close guard for the whole time.
468
00:31:20,238 --> 00:31:23,018
Like that's, that's all they did all night. And I remember I remember thinking,
469
00:31:23,118 --> 00:31:24,778
definitely not going to do that.
470
00:31:25,198 --> 00:31:28,598
So I didn't go back. For those of you that don't know what it looks like,
471
00:31:28,638 --> 00:31:32,718
yeah, it doesn't look very fun. No, it was like the most boring thing ever.
472
00:31:32,798 --> 00:31:32,818
It's a very awkward position.
473
00:31:33,398 --> 00:31:36,698
And so it was after that where Cody actually started showing me stuff.
474
00:31:36,778 --> 00:31:38,198
So I had to backtrack a little bit.
475
00:31:39,598 --> 00:31:44,558
When he showed me a move and we started grappling around and eventually i ended
476
00:31:44,558 --> 00:31:48,958
up deciding to take it a little bit more serious and cody's actually a big a
477
00:31:48,958 --> 00:31:50,878
big proponent of me even teaching because,
478
00:31:51,998 --> 00:31:56,518
well cody decided he was going to take a fight and this fight was in galliano
479
00:31:56,518 --> 00:32:00,338
i believe it was down the bay somewhere and uh he fought a guy named justin
480
00:32:00,338 --> 00:32:05,318
martinez justin actually still still around he lives in tibeto now and he's
481
00:32:05,318 --> 00:32:07,778
like hey you want to corner me for this fight I'm like, yeah,
482
00:32:07,838 --> 00:32:09,998
sure, I guess. Like, I don't know what I'm doing, but I'll go.
483
00:32:10,578 --> 00:32:12,458
So it takes a fight on one of Justin's shows.
484
00:32:13,818 --> 00:32:16,898
And LaRose, might have been like the LaRose Civic Center, Galeano LaRose,
485
00:32:16,958 --> 00:32:17,458
somewhere around there.
486
00:32:18,138 --> 00:32:21,838
And he fights Justin. He comes out in the first round. And I thought it was
487
00:32:21,838 --> 00:32:25,878
interesting because Cody was like, you know, like the best dude at the karate school.
488
00:32:26,918 --> 00:32:29,898
And he never once hit the dude on the feet.
489
00:32:30,438 --> 00:32:34,618
Like, not once. Okay. So he's got all these years of karate under his belt.
490
00:32:35,118 --> 00:32:38,478
And none of it mattered. like none of it mattered and
491
00:32:38,478 --> 00:32:42,678
so justin just grew up fighting justin came
492
00:32:42,678 --> 00:32:47,758
from nonabaya just all the time fighting and he wore cody out in the first round
493
00:32:47,758 --> 00:32:53,098
when i tell you he beat the snot out of cody like till this day i still think
494
00:32:53,098 --> 00:32:56,718
gabe gabe barahona could have stopped the fight like and i would have never
495
00:32:56,718 --> 00:32:59,878
complained because cody was out on his feet he makes it through the first round,
496
00:33:00,358 --> 00:33:05,158
and he comes out for the second round and Justin got tired.
497
00:33:05,578 --> 00:33:09,918
And so the round started back on the feet. Cody ends up getting taken down again.
498
00:33:10,818 --> 00:33:14,738
Couldn't keep it on his feet where he thought he wanted to be anyway. He's getting beat up.
499
00:33:15,318 --> 00:33:19,518
Justin gets tired. Cody does a sit over sweep, mounts him and then punches him
500
00:33:19,518 --> 00:33:22,278
and the ref called it. Like he hits him a few times, kind of puts him away.
501
00:33:23,736 --> 00:33:27,136
Cardio thing as why cody won but i remember
502
00:33:27,136 --> 00:33:29,916
thinking like man that's kind of crazy like cody's only been doing jiu jitsu
503
00:33:29,916 --> 00:33:32,516
for maybe five or six months and i don't even think he
504
00:33:32,516 --> 00:33:35,976
was going all the time i think he would do it like once a week and that's
505
00:33:35,976 --> 00:33:39,716
what saved him in a fight so i remember thinking i was pretty pretty odd okay
506
00:33:39,716 --> 00:33:43,776
and the other thing with cody was that was the first time he had ever gotten
507
00:33:43,776 --> 00:33:49,156
into a fight ever like he had he never got into a fight as a kid so this first
508
00:33:49,156 --> 00:33:52,556
time actually getting in with somebody actually really trying to hurt him was
509
00:33:52,556 --> 00:33:54,536
in front of a crowd in a cage.
510
00:33:55,196 --> 00:34:00,476
And when we left that night, I told Naomi, I said, I could have did better than that.
511
00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:04,656
And she's like, how do you know you, you've never done that before.
512
00:34:05,236 --> 00:34:08,076
Everybody, everybody at that place left and thought the same thing. Yeah.
513
00:34:08,636 --> 00:34:14,436
So, so I told her that. And when she told me that she didn't realize that she
514
00:34:14,436 --> 00:34:16,876
challenged me to prove my point that I could do it.
515
00:34:17,396 --> 00:34:20,856
And I remember thinking, well, I guess that means I got to go learn some of that jujitsu stuff.
516
00:34:21,336 --> 00:34:24,276
So I was the guy, guy literally the guy
517
00:34:24,276 --> 00:34:27,056
that when i walked in i was trying
518
00:34:27,056 --> 00:34:29,816
to make a decision on whether i was going to drive all the way to the rose to go
519
00:34:29,816 --> 00:34:32,996
to blacklist or if i was going to drive to buy a blue to go
520
00:34:32,996 --> 00:34:39,216
with toro and i said man it you know i'm trying to figure out how i'm a you
521
00:34:39,216 --> 00:34:43,096
know pay for fuel to go to to the rose a few times a week right because it was
522
00:34:43,096 --> 00:34:46,716
so broke at the time so when i started like trying to do some math to figure
523
00:34:46,716 --> 00:34:49,896
out how many miles i could drive to go to the road or buy a Blue.
524
00:34:50,356 --> 00:34:56,776
The only option to train was to go to Bayou Blue. So I, uh, I walk in and talk
525
00:34:56,776 --> 00:35:01,556
to Toro, who Tori Bienvenu, he was the guy that kind of, I think he's the one
526
00:35:01,556 --> 00:35:03,196
that mainly brought jujitsu to the area,
527
00:35:03,296 --> 00:35:05,476
to the Homa Thibodeau area.
528
00:35:07,532 --> 00:35:11,712
Him i said hey i i want to start learning jiu-jitsu he's like well why i said
529
00:35:11,712 --> 00:35:16,212
because i want to fight in a cage and now it's it's funny because like you hear
530
00:35:16,212 --> 00:35:17,572
so many of those stories and guys don't stay,
531
00:35:18,072 --> 00:35:23,732
and i did a jiu-jitsu tournament about seven months in and i took a fight nine months in and,
532
00:35:24,292 --> 00:35:27,032
that's pretty much how this whole thing started was because my wife didn't think
533
00:35:27,032 --> 00:35:33,492
i could win a fight and bo you started with toro as well yeah so they had just
534
00:35:33,492 --> 00:35:39,392
moved so all right real quick but you remember James that used to work here way back when?
535
00:35:39,672 --> 00:35:43,952
Okay, so I'm in high school. I'm working, I don't know, over the summer or Christmas or whatever.
536
00:35:44,092 --> 00:35:48,452
I'm stuck in the vacuum packing room with this guy, James, who's one of these
537
00:35:48,452 --> 00:35:51,312
guys that knows a little bit about everything.
538
00:35:52,032 --> 00:35:55,592
And I'm like, hey, I'm thinking about starting a martial art. Which one should I do?
539
00:35:56,132 --> 00:36:00,092
And he kind of gives me a rundown of all the martial arts because that's just
540
00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:00,952
something that he knows.
541
00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:04,452
He knew all of them. and uh brazilian jiu-jitsu
542
00:36:04,452 --> 00:36:07,072
sounded cool because it has the word submission in it
543
00:36:07,072 --> 00:36:11,212
and i like the idea of making somebody else quit and so
544
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:15,672
what you had to do back in those days was you open the phone book and go to
545
00:36:15,672 --> 00:36:21,852
the yellow pages and you look up martial arts or brazilian jiu-jitsu and i called
546
00:36:21,852 --> 00:36:27,092
the number the address the address was for the place across from tarragon but
547
00:36:27,092 --> 00:36:29,452
when i called him I was like, all right, so I'm gonna meet out.
548
00:36:29,832 --> 00:36:32,932
Yeah, there's class on Tuesday and Thursday nights. I'll meet you at,
549
00:36:33,072 --> 00:36:38,232
across from the terrible anxiety. No, no, no, we just started at the Y. So meet me at the Y.
550
00:36:38,992 --> 00:36:40,992
So yeah, that's how I started.
551
00:36:42,032 --> 00:36:46,712
Jeez. And, but y'all, were y'all in the same room together? Back then?
552
00:36:47,912 --> 00:36:50,132
Oh, that's the thing. Like, I don't really remember too much.
553
00:36:50,152 --> 00:36:53,432
See, he remembers me, but I don't really remember a whole lot of the guys there.
554
00:36:53,552 --> 00:36:55,572
And I remember hearing Bo, I remember hearing the name.
555
00:36:58,170 --> 00:37:03,890
Remember a ton from from like then and i don't know why to be quite honest the
556
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:09,950
only thing i remember was dr stiegler and i remember alvin so i remember alvin
557
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:12,490
stiegler james morgan and toro,
558
00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:17,470
those are pretty much the people i remember i remember you remember both scotts don't you,
559
00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:22,650
yeah scott porter scott pritchard yeah yeah but i remember stiegler because
560
00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:25,450
he was always the one that just if you rolled with him he was probably going
561
00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:28,610
to get you like i got my eye almost scratched out by him when he was drilling
562
00:37:28,610 --> 00:37:31,030
an Orenbohr and it was my fault, apparently.
563
00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:35,350
So the only person that could hurt you and then get mad at you for it.
564
00:37:35,550 --> 00:37:39,630
Yeah. He could hurt you and then say, this is why I don't like drilling white belts.
565
00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:42,730
It made me mad. See what you did.
566
00:37:44,090 --> 00:37:48,490
All right. So what exactly is jujitsu?
567
00:37:48,970 --> 00:37:53,630
Oh man. What is jujitsu? What does Brazilian jujitsu mean without,
568
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:55,190
without getting into the history?
569
00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:59,470
Just what is it? there's a lot of people that have been hearing it this
570
00:37:59,470 --> 00:38:03,330
whole episode and they don't know what it is so jujitsu is
571
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:08,250
japanese right so this is one thing that i think needs to be it's not brazilian
572
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:15,210
so the jujitsu is not a brazilian word the the words jujitsu they translate
573
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:19,310
to the art or set of techniques that flow or go with so that's what like the
574
00:38:19,310 --> 00:38:21,710
meaning of jujitsu is the the actual words,
575
00:38:21,850 --> 00:38:25,530
if you, if you look up Jew and Jitsu, that's what it's going to tell you.
576
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:30,770
So Jew is to flow or go with, and Jitsu is the art or the set of techniques,
577
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:32,730
art or set of techniques.
578
00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:37,550
So from a fighting standpoint, I guess that's what it is.
579
00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:41,030
Most people recognize it because they watch the UFC and they see people say
580
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:44,270
that, oh, he has such good Jiu Jitsu and they see the grappling on the ground.
581
00:38:45,819 --> 00:38:49,439
But I don't think jujitsu is really about the fighting. For me,
582
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:51,899
it's more about the individual.
583
00:38:52,059 --> 00:38:57,179
It's a way for people to improve themselves, and they're drawn to it because
584
00:38:57,179 --> 00:38:58,499
of the fighting nature of it.
585
00:38:58,759 --> 00:39:03,299
I think jujitsu is more than just a martial art or a fighting art.
586
00:39:03,419 --> 00:39:07,419
Yeah, it's more than a fighting art. I think martial arts are mainly a way to
587
00:39:07,419 --> 00:39:10,939
help people develop themselves into better people.
588
00:39:11,919 --> 00:39:15,459
So that, that, that, that can end up being a whole, whole nother topic in its
589
00:39:15,459 --> 00:39:17,159
own self, like talking about that.
590
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:22,239
But it's, yeah, it's a grappling art that's based around chokes,
591
00:39:22,259 --> 00:39:25,459
joint locks, and get into positions that allow you to do those things.
592
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:31,419
That's what most people would recognize it as. That's good. Can we do a little sidebar right here?
593
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Shane, what do you like about jujitsu? Why do you go every time?
594
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,959
Man there certainly is
595
00:39:40,959 --> 00:39:44,039
there certainly is addiction right
596
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:47,019
addiction exists and some people are
597
00:39:47,019 --> 00:39:50,339
more prone than others to be addicted to things i have
598
00:39:50,339 --> 00:39:53,679
an addictive personality and the layers and
599
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:57,679
layers and layers of jujitsu keep unpeeling
600
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,579
for me because i keep i keep digging into it i'm
601
00:40:00,579 --> 00:40:03,399
i'm the type that is going to keep digging into it
602
00:40:03,399 --> 00:40:08,099
i'm not just going to show up whatever it is three times a week train and then
603
00:40:08,099 --> 00:40:13,819
it's off my mind with almost all the little shenanigans I get into I get way
604
00:40:13,819 --> 00:40:19,239
way too into it and that's absolutely absolutely happened with jiu-jitsu and
605
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,719
the more I take the more I learn the more.
606
00:40:22,954 --> 00:40:27,214
Unfolds and the more I'm interested in it and I'm sure it's the same for you
607
00:40:27,214 --> 00:40:32,154
because you have actually led me down a lot of the rabbit holes.
608
00:40:33,954 --> 00:40:40,314
I'll find whatever, maybe a technique or a guy or a piece of history or a video
609
00:40:40,314 --> 00:40:42,754
I watch and I'll mention it to you.
610
00:40:42,874 --> 00:40:46,334
Be like, hey, I need you to check this out. Check out this guy I've been watching.
611
00:40:46,774 --> 00:40:49,614
And you'll be like, oh yeah, him. Yep.
612
00:40:49,794 --> 00:40:53,734
And then you'll spit off a few facts about him, where he trained, who, who trained him.
613
00:40:53,894 --> 00:40:56,854
And then you'll say, if you like him, why don't you check out this other guy?
614
00:40:56,914 --> 00:41:01,914
And then there's the next three months just digging and digging and digging.
615
00:41:02,714 --> 00:41:06,014
Yeah. It's an endless rabbit hole for sure. But like, that's the problem for
616
00:41:06,014 --> 00:41:08,954
you though. Like you see, you're just good at everything you do.
617
00:41:09,354 --> 00:41:12,474
So like everything you end up doing, you go down a deep rabbit hole and you
618
00:41:12,474 --> 00:41:13,554
get really, really good at it.
619
00:41:13,834 --> 00:41:19,814
Like that's just seems to be the case with Shane. To me, here's how I can answer your question.
620
00:41:20,094 --> 00:41:24,714
For me, I love to learn. I really like to learn. I did not like to learn in school.
621
00:41:25,334 --> 00:41:28,274
Wasn't very good at that. Didn't care about the learning process.
622
00:41:28,574 --> 00:41:31,694
But I guess that's what it is for me.
623
00:41:32,754 --> 00:41:38,574
It's taught me throughout any endeavor that I choose how to learn the endeavor.
624
00:41:38,574 --> 00:41:43,394
Whatever the skill is, if I do the, if I treat it the same way that I treat
625
00:41:43,394 --> 00:41:46,154
jujitsu, I get good at it.
626
00:41:46,174 --> 00:41:49,674
I know, I know I will, you know, I'm not going to be the best at it,
627
00:41:49,694 --> 00:41:54,994
but I'm going to know, I'm going to know how to find the guys who are the best
628
00:41:54,994 --> 00:41:58,274
and I'm going to know to study those guys, you know?
629
00:41:59,737 --> 00:42:03,997
And I understand the levels of skill involved in anything.
630
00:42:05,377 --> 00:42:08,197
So, you know, when you start to feel like you're good at something,
631
00:42:09,097 --> 00:42:14,977
jujitsu teaches me that, hey, there's guys that, there's guys down the street
632
00:42:14,977 --> 00:42:19,417
who used to do this 30 years ago who don't anymore.
633
00:42:19,657 --> 00:42:22,997
And you're just coming into it.
634
00:42:23,117 --> 00:42:29,357
And you've got to realize that those other guys are out there and they have a lot to offer.
635
00:42:29,357 --> 00:42:33,097
And if you, if you kind of tune that out and you get too caught up in the,
636
00:42:33,097 --> 00:42:38,197
into this, I think you miss a lot of the, the benefits of it,
637
00:42:38,237 --> 00:42:42,317
you know, of, for me, any skill that I, that I attempt.
638
00:42:43,177 --> 00:42:47,677
Nice. That's a good point. So Scotty, you started doing jujitsu so that you
639
00:42:47,677 --> 00:42:49,637
could be a cage fighter and.
640
00:42:50,317 --> 00:42:53,597
No, I started, I started because my wife said I couldn't.
641
00:42:55,097 --> 00:42:58,577
Fair enough. She's going to listen to this. Thanks Naomi. At the time,
642
00:42:58,577 --> 00:43:02,177
you were probably cross-training with maybe some Chinese kickboxing,
643
00:43:02,297 --> 00:43:03,897
some tangsudo, some boxing.
644
00:43:04,037 --> 00:43:10,837
Who knows? The point is, why is it, what is it about jiu-jitsu that you decided to stick with?
645
00:43:11,477 --> 00:43:14,617
Why aren't you a Muay Thai black belt? I don't know.
646
00:43:14,857 --> 00:43:22,197
Or whatever. You know, so I think that, so like, this is the first thing outside
647
00:43:22,197 --> 00:43:26,117
of my marriage that I've stayed doing for a long period of time.
648
00:43:27,617 --> 00:43:30,977
It's the only thing that's kept me interested for
649
00:43:30,977 --> 00:43:35,777
this long so like i tried a whole bunch of stuff as a kid you know got got decent
650
00:43:35,777 --> 00:43:42,157
at some things but never really had the want or desire to pursue something for
651
00:43:42,157 --> 00:43:45,797
a long long period of time like even even when i did karate for a while even
652
00:43:45,797 --> 00:43:49,317
when i did karate for a while it was like a couple years,
653
00:43:49,917 --> 00:43:51,877
Cheers. Wait, let's stop.
654
00:43:52,277 --> 00:43:59,697
That was Bo's neck. I hope that sound comes through. For anyone listening, don't do jiu-jitsu.
655
00:43:59,917 --> 00:44:03,797
No, no, no, no. Don't relate that to jiu-jitsu. I thought it was like a chiropractor thing.
656
00:44:04,497 --> 00:44:07,377
I thought you did that on purpose. You need to go see Carrie, man.
657
00:44:10,177 --> 00:44:11,217
All right. Sorry.
658
00:44:14,817 --> 00:44:16,857
So, did karate for a while. And
659
00:44:16,857 --> 00:44:19,717
even I stopped that because I just kind of got bored with it, you know.
660
00:44:20,857 --> 00:44:24,557
Jiu-jitsu, yeah, I don't know. Something different about it.
661
00:44:25,117 --> 00:44:27,317
There's just a different way to challenge myself. And...
662
00:44:29,193 --> 00:44:33,273
Know i have i still don't know why i've stayed with it as long as i have 17
663
00:44:33,273 --> 00:44:38,093
years later and i still don't know why which has turned out to to be a good
664
00:44:38,093 --> 00:44:40,533
move for me i guess but i think,
665
00:44:41,753 --> 00:44:45,433
after i got my black belt i started realizing how dumb it was for me to pursue.
666
00:44:47,213 --> 00:44:52,913
The selfish goals of training and i think that's when i really really wanted to start trying to,
667
00:44:53,413 --> 00:44:56,913
teach more because i always found more benefit or
668
00:44:56,913 --> 00:44:59,973
more gratification out of seeing people will get better
669
00:44:59,973 --> 00:45:03,873
than it mattered to me about winning competitions because
670
00:45:03,873 --> 00:45:06,513
like i would go to tournaments and you know i'd
671
00:45:06,513 --> 00:45:10,613
do well or whatever and i just didn't care like it didn't it didn't really make
672
00:45:10,613 --> 00:45:14,353
me feel as good as when i can help somebody get better and so seeing them pursue
673
00:45:14,353 --> 00:45:18,133
their goals and seeing them achieve them was always more more rewarding for
674
00:45:18,133 --> 00:45:22,593
me so i think that's probably the thing that's gotten me yeah probably over
675
00:45:22,593 --> 00:45:24,753
the past i don't know 10 years.
676
00:45:25,293 --> 00:45:28,173
Yes yeah probably probably about 10
677
00:45:28,173 --> 00:45:31,393
years now that's really gotten me to to stay interested
678
00:45:31,393 --> 00:45:34,233
in it and yeah it's just that
679
00:45:34,233 --> 00:45:37,293
you know i was never never truly worried
680
00:45:37,293 --> 00:45:40,573
about doing much else outside of
681
00:45:40,573 --> 00:45:43,793
trying to figure out how to make people better on the mat and just
682
00:45:43,793 --> 00:45:47,373
overall and whatever way i could help so that's
683
00:45:47,373 --> 00:45:50,613
probably what's kept me around more so than the the actual grappling
684
00:45:50,613 --> 00:45:53,793
itself to be honest maybe people don't realize i
685
00:45:53,793 --> 00:45:56,833
mean definitely they don't realize a lot about jiu-jitsu but
686
00:45:56,833 --> 00:45:59,933
from an outsider's view they might think that you
687
00:45:59,933 --> 00:46:03,793
if you want to sign up for jiu-jitsu you start and that
688
00:46:03,793 --> 00:46:06,593
means you have to compete and they're scared they don't want to compete
689
00:46:06,593 --> 00:46:09,813
so explain that like i know
690
00:46:09,813 --> 00:46:13,273
that was confusing for me when i started too i kind of assumed well if you're
691
00:46:13,273 --> 00:46:17,553
if you're going three nights a week four nights a week to train at this gym
692
00:46:17,553 --> 00:46:21,673
with all these guys you must be training to go to a tournament with them is
693
00:46:21,673 --> 00:46:26,453
that just talk on that i mean you can you know you can i don't think it matters
694
00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:29,613
i think for some some personalities it's good.
695
00:46:31,516 --> 00:46:36,336
But it's not what everybody should do. People think jujitsu is a sport.
696
00:46:37,136 --> 00:46:41,056
You'll hear people talk about the sport of jujitsu and they completely leave
697
00:46:41,056 --> 00:46:43,176
out the fact that it's supposed to be a martial art first.
698
00:46:43,856 --> 00:46:46,796
When you start getting to the sportative side of it, you think it's a game.
699
00:46:47,296 --> 00:46:50,956
It can be played as a game, the same as people play basketball and football
700
00:46:50,956 --> 00:46:54,656
and all that stuff, tennis, whatever, whatever game you want to figure.
701
00:46:55,196 --> 00:46:57,996
But jujitsu is not for you
702
00:46:57,996 --> 00:47:01,456
to go out and compete you can compete at it but
703
00:47:01,456 --> 00:47:05,656
a lot of places teach for competition specific scenarios
704
00:47:05,656 --> 00:47:09,136
right and they want to be able to push their their students
705
00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:12,736
out there and and be able to try to market it that way so that they can try
706
00:47:12,736 --> 00:47:17,096
to gain a bigger student base and and build a bigger academy and make more money
707
00:47:17,096 --> 00:47:21,096
and all that but you know what they're really doing i think a lot of times is
708
00:47:21,096 --> 00:47:23,876
maybe they're doing some good for a community or they're doing good for their
709
00:47:23,876 --> 00:47:26,876
students And it's, it's not for me to say they are or not,
710
00:47:27,036 --> 00:47:33,676
but I think if you push people into competing, that their personality isn't
711
00:47:33,676 --> 00:47:36,756
right for competing, you might be doing a disservice to that person.
712
00:47:38,156 --> 00:47:42,836
So if you're training three to five days a week, I mean, nobody questions,
713
00:47:42,976 --> 00:47:47,596
Hey, you're going to do a bodybuilding competition because you go work out three or four days a week.
714
00:47:47,876 --> 00:47:51,016
Like, like it's, it's a good analogy. Yeah. Like, like nobody,
715
00:47:51,176 --> 00:47:54,736
nobody, nobody ever asked that question to somebody that goes to the gym.
716
00:47:54,816 --> 00:47:56,636
Oh, they just, oh, he goes to the gym, he goes workout.
717
00:47:56,736 --> 00:48:00,356
He wants to stay in shape. Well, people do that with jujitsu.
718
00:48:00,596 --> 00:48:03,476
They do that with a whole lot of stuff. You don't, you know,
719
00:48:03,476 --> 00:48:07,356
how many people play pickleball nowadays and they're not going to be,
720
00:48:07,596 --> 00:48:10,096
I don't know, play a professional pickleball.
721
00:48:10,616 --> 00:48:12,516
I've been hearing that word way too much.
722
00:48:13,256 --> 00:48:15,736
Like, I still want to know how they came up with the name for it.
723
00:48:16,336 --> 00:48:20,696
So yeah, you don't have to compete. No, no. Then why? Then why do it?
724
00:48:21,036 --> 00:48:24,836
To challenge yourself. All right. So this is the way that Waffle talked to me about it.
725
00:48:25,096 --> 00:48:29,356
Who's Waffle? Waffle was the guy that I trained with after I got out of training with Toro.
726
00:48:29,496 --> 00:48:33,556
Waffle basically walked in on the mat one day when I was still at Toro.
727
00:48:33,636 --> 00:48:34,676
It was about two months in.
728
00:48:34,896 --> 00:48:38,696
And I seen the way he was training with everybody. And I thought he looked a
729
00:48:38,696 --> 00:48:39,736
little different in his approach.
730
00:48:39,896 --> 00:48:45,296
And basically, I started training with him whenever he decided to start teaching.
731
00:48:45,856 --> 00:48:50,336
And I stayed with him for quite a long time. I still, still have a solid relationship
732
00:48:50,336 --> 00:48:54,636
with him, but I was ranked from white all the way through to black with, with waffle.
733
00:48:55,376 --> 00:49:01,136
But one thing he told me about competing, he, and he's a, he's a psychologist as well.
734
00:49:01,576 --> 00:49:07,776
And he said that competing can be good for certain individuals, but it really depends.
735
00:49:08,156 --> 00:49:12,036
He said, if you take somebody and it spikes their their anxiety level up to
736
00:49:12,036 --> 00:49:16,816
a 10 to go compete, he said that same person that hits a 10 at a competition,
737
00:49:17,276 --> 00:49:22,196
they might get the same anxiety spike just by going to visit another academy.
738
00:49:22,696 --> 00:49:25,316
He said, so when they hit that anxiety level.
739
00:49:26,925 --> 00:49:30,165
No difference to them whether they're going to another place to go visit somewhere
740
00:49:30,165 --> 00:49:33,685
or a competition. He said, so going to a competition makes no sense for them.
741
00:49:34,125 --> 00:49:39,045
If you get somebody that like a first day person, you would never tell a first
742
00:49:39,045 --> 00:49:42,405
day person or a personal weekend that they need to go do a competition because
743
00:49:42,405 --> 00:49:46,365
they're still getting that same height of anxiety walking through the door of the gym.
744
00:49:47,005 --> 00:49:51,305
And, you know, after they do that for a year or whatever, you know,
745
00:49:51,305 --> 00:49:53,425
maybe they go visit somewhere else and it still does it for them.
746
00:49:53,445 --> 00:49:56,905
They go visit a new place, their anxiety spikes, you know, if they can go all
747
00:49:56,905 --> 00:50:00,825
over the country and they don't get a spike in their anxiety level and it,
748
00:50:00,825 --> 00:50:05,025
and it never maxes out at a 10 and they're at like a three, well, sure.
749
00:50:05,125 --> 00:50:08,265
Maybe that guy needs to go do a competition to feel like there's some sort of,
750
00:50:08,265 --> 00:50:10,545
some sort of thing at stake for him. Right.
751
00:50:10,825 --> 00:50:14,325
But even, even still like guys compete enough and it just kind of lowers it,
752
00:50:14,365 --> 00:50:18,685
you know, like, like, I don't know, everything becomes normal the more you do
753
00:50:18,685 --> 00:50:21,085
it. So depends on the individual.
754
00:50:21,225 --> 00:50:25,005
Some people, you know, if they know what it feels like to have to deal with
755
00:50:25,005 --> 00:50:29,745
the jitters before a match and, you know, they, they, they know how they handle that stress.
756
00:50:30,025 --> 00:50:34,045
Then I think when people realize that, then if you know the answers to it,
757
00:50:34,085 --> 00:50:40,645
then why, why go pay $120 to compete in a tournament against people that you're
758
00:50:40,645 --> 00:50:44,365
going to be able to train with anytime you want, you know, like, just think about it.
759
00:50:44,545 --> 00:50:48,745
You go to a local tournament here in New Orleans, right? Like let's say IBJJF comes to New Orleans.
760
00:50:49,205 --> 00:50:53,125
Who are you going to be competing against? You're going to be competing against
761
00:50:53,125 --> 00:50:54,765
all the guys within an hour radius.
762
00:50:54,985 --> 00:50:57,745
You're going to have a handful of people that pop in, maybe they drive four
763
00:50:57,745 --> 00:51:01,665
or five hours, but you may or may not even have that person in your bracket.
764
00:51:02,085 --> 00:51:04,565
So it's like, you're going to be training with the dude that you went to visit.
765
00:51:05,065 --> 00:51:08,525
To train with in New Orleans like three weeks ago. And that's the guy you're
766
00:51:08,525 --> 00:51:09,825
competing with. Doesn't even make sense.
767
00:51:10,265 --> 00:51:14,245
You know, like you just go train with them. And so for people to think that
768
00:51:14,245 --> 00:51:18,945
they're doing some great thing by competing not to not to crap on anybody's
769
00:51:18,945 --> 00:51:21,305
accomplishments because i do think it's it does have value.
770
00:51:23,288 --> 00:51:26,248
It's like, after we look at it enough, it's kind of, it kind of just doesn't
771
00:51:26,248 --> 00:51:29,548
make sense to compete. Like, if you know, some people need to prove to themselves
772
00:51:29,548 --> 00:51:30,548
that they're good enough to win.
773
00:51:31,368 --> 00:51:37,108
And I think when you know you are, you realize like, eh, it doesn't really matter.
774
00:51:37,608 --> 00:51:41,268
You know, like it, so what? So, you know, you're good. Like,
775
00:51:41,268 --> 00:51:42,748
do you need to keep proving it to yourself?
776
00:51:43,208 --> 00:51:45,848
And that's another thing that I've heard from guys that are like multiple time
777
00:51:45,848 --> 00:51:49,048
world champions over and over and over and over again. They always end the same way.
778
00:51:49,228 --> 00:51:53,548
Every last one of them, they always end the same way. so you
779
00:51:53,548 --> 00:51:57,088
listen to any dude that's won multiple world titles in jujitsu they
780
00:51:57,088 --> 00:52:01,808
all say this when they're done they all say helping
781
00:52:01,808 --> 00:52:06,128
their students is far more fulfilling than
782
00:52:06,128 --> 00:52:09,288
winning any any any world title and so
783
00:52:09,288 --> 00:52:12,328
they all come to that same conclusion so like i don't
784
00:52:12,328 --> 00:52:15,768
think they wasted their years of winning competitions but at
785
00:52:15,768 --> 00:52:20,788
the end says that all of those guys come up with the same answer why are we
786
00:52:20,788 --> 00:52:23,628
worried about white belts winning tournaments or blue belts or whatever you
787
00:52:23,628 --> 00:52:28,128
know like it's really not that important when the end goal is just to help people
788
00:52:28,128 --> 00:52:32,628
and they all come to that all of them every last one that i know of anyway or
789
00:52:32,628 --> 00:52:34,528
that i'd be willing to listen to them,
790
00:52:34,988 --> 00:52:39,988
to them or get advice from them you know i'm gonna find it interesting i'm gonna
791
00:52:39,988 --> 00:52:45,928
play a little devil's advocate here go for it i've competed before i don't particularly
792
00:52:45,928 --> 00:52:50,728
care for it but at times in the past is something that I really wanted to do.
793
00:52:52,348 --> 00:52:57,928
My argument might be more along the lines of, I think everyone should try it once.
794
00:52:58,128 --> 00:53:01,548
Yeah. I don't, I don't see much value in doing it regularly,
795
00:53:01,728 --> 00:53:06,588
but it's such a shock to the system that most people haven't experienced,
796
00:53:06,848 --> 00:53:12,448
especially like even, even for people like Shane and I that played football
797
00:53:12,448 --> 00:53:13,628
on Friday nights, right.
798
00:53:13,688 --> 00:53:18,848
In high school or soccer or whatever it might've been is different when you're
799
00:53:18,848 --> 00:53:20,988
the only, it's different in a solo sport.
800
00:53:20,988 --> 00:53:23,928
And the nerves that you get competing in
801
00:53:23,928 --> 00:53:27,488
that adrenaline dump especially if you've never done it before i
802
00:53:27,488 --> 00:53:32,208
think there's some value in knowing how your body is going to react yeah especially
803
00:53:32,208 --> 00:53:36,688
maybe from a like a self-defense standpoint oh yeah yeah no no and that's what
804
00:53:36,688 --> 00:53:39,268
i was meaning earlier when i said like once you know how you handle that stress
805
00:53:39,268 --> 00:53:42,788
level then i don't think it's really that important to continue doing those
806
00:53:42,788 --> 00:53:46,228
type of things so like yeah i do think it isn't it it
807
00:53:46,268 --> 00:53:48,988
can be a good thing depending on the individual.
808
00:53:49,488 --> 00:53:55,128
So it goes back to the idea of if somebody's getting really like,
809
00:53:55,208 --> 00:53:57,548
I guess the word would be physiologically.
810
00:53:57,688 --> 00:54:02,288
Like if, if it triggers all those same, all those same stress hormones in an
811
00:54:02,288 --> 00:54:04,768
individual just to walk onto a mat, right?
812
00:54:04,908 --> 00:54:09,028
Like, like, like, okay, this is an example. We got a, we got a girl that trains with us.
813
00:54:09,408 --> 00:54:12,788
And when she first started, I don't know if you remember, but she would sit
814
00:54:12,788 --> 00:54:16,368
on the side And she didn't even want to get on the mat. She was nervous to get on the mat.
815
00:54:16,888 --> 00:54:22,468
I think her getting on that mat, her body response the first time would have
816
00:54:22,468 --> 00:54:26,948
been no different than her going to a competition. Right.
817
00:54:27,128 --> 00:54:30,768
And so after a couple of years, year and a half, whatever it was,
818
00:54:30,848 --> 00:54:37,208
she actually did a competition and I wanted her to do it just for her to know she could.
819
00:54:38,448 --> 00:54:41,528
I didn't care about the results, you know, like, yeah, I don't even think winning
820
00:54:41,528 --> 00:54:42,628
should be, I didn't even care.
821
00:54:42,648 --> 00:54:46,548
I didn't even care about the results because she was so terrified to get on the mat on day one.
822
00:54:47,208 --> 00:54:50,788
It was like a confidence thing for her to know that she could at least walk
823
00:54:50,788 --> 00:54:55,468
out onto the mat in a competition setting and still go out there and do something. Right.
824
00:54:55,548 --> 00:54:58,668
And it's crazy because it took her like a match or two.
825
00:54:59,188 --> 00:55:03,408
She lost both matches, but I want to say it was after her second match.
826
00:55:03,608 --> 00:55:06,728
I think she finally got over the nerves of it, like
827
00:55:06,728 --> 00:55:10,948
midway through the second match she crap i
828
00:55:10,948 --> 00:55:13,588
don't even remember which one it was but i know at some point there was
829
00:55:13,588 --> 00:55:18,348
like a definite difference in her body language and she ended up getting smashed
830
00:55:18,348 --> 00:55:24,208
for the first half of whatever round it was and she ended it on top like going
831
00:55:24,208 --> 00:55:28,368
after the other girl she ends up losing on points but she something clicked
832
00:55:28,368 --> 00:55:32,488
in her head to like no i can do it that's You know, and,
833
00:55:32,628 --> 00:55:36,888
and to see her make that move, it's like, okay, she'd done it once.
834
00:55:36,988 --> 00:55:39,248
I don't think she ever needs to do it again. Correct.
835
00:55:39,388 --> 00:55:42,808
You know, because I think that particular person, if she's ever attacked,
836
00:55:43,148 --> 00:55:46,128
she's probably going to do okay.
837
00:55:47,188 --> 00:55:50,808
Like, I think she's going to be able to handle herself well enough,
838
00:55:50,928 --> 00:55:54,668
you know, but you know, the, the emotional stuff that she had to get over just
839
00:55:54,668 --> 00:55:56,008
to get on the mat in the first place.
840
00:55:56,028 --> 00:56:01,248
I think her getting into a competition, just, I don't know if it was any different.
841
00:56:01,468 --> 00:56:05,308
So I think after guys, like guys that keep going to compete to win,
842
00:56:05,408 --> 00:56:07,648
to win, to win, just to keep proving themselves that they can,
843
00:56:07,808 --> 00:56:11,948
I'm not sure what drives them or motivates them, but I don't think it's to deal
844
00:56:11,948 --> 00:56:14,288
with the nerves after a certain amount of time.
845
00:56:15,988 --> 00:56:21,328
I think they just want to see if they can keep winning. And the truth is,
846
00:56:21,348 --> 00:56:24,048
it's going to be a bunch of medals later on that they're probably going to put
847
00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:25,808
in a box and never take out.
848
00:56:26,508 --> 00:56:29,388
So what's that worth? worth not saying it doesn't have value
849
00:56:29,388 --> 00:56:32,728
but i'm still questioning like what is it worth you know like i
850
00:56:32,728 --> 00:56:35,428
think the value the value you write is
851
00:56:35,428 --> 00:56:40,148
not in the metals the value is that you know when push comes to shove that your
852
00:56:40,148 --> 00:56:44,728
heart rate's gonna stay steady and you're not gonna panic yeah yeah well it's
853
00:56:44,728 --> 00:56:52,888
like you know y'all had y'all let ty shoot a pig right and so he shot the pig
854
00:56:52,888 --> 00:56:55,108
and you told him, he said, hey, let me see your hands.
855
00:56:55,768 --> 00:56:58,968
And he goes, and you're like, ah, that's pretty good. He was,
856
00:56:59,048 --> 00:57:03,268
I don't know, 10, whatever it was, right? I don't remember his age. He was decently young.
857
00:57:05,104 --> 00:57:08,044
It didn't affect him like some people don't got that yeah
858
00:57:08,044 --> 00:57:11,144
most people don't got that yeah but he also competed a
859
00:57:11,144 --> 00:57:14,004
lot yeah so like he he knows how
860
00:57:14,004 --> 00:57:18,484
he deals with those those type of moments you know and he's done it enough that's
861
00:57:18,484 --> 00:57:22,224
why after a certain time of him competing i never forced him to compete like
862
00:57:22,224 --> 00:57:26,504
if he goes and competes it's because he wants to now like i didn't tell him
863
00:57:26,504 --> 00:57:30,204
he needed to do this thing the other day or or the other events that he's done
864
00:57:30,204 --> 00:57:32,244
throughout like he decided he wanted to do that.
865
00:57:32,904 --> 00:57:38,184
And I think putting him in some of that stuff earlier on helped him learn how
866
00:57:38,184 --> 00:57:40,924
to do it. But I don't think it's something he had to be doing when he was eight.
867
00:57:41,364 --> 00:57:43,684
You know, I don't think you need to know that answer when you're eight.
868
00:57:43,844 --> 00:57:46,944
You know, I think people just need to learn it eventually, you know,
869
00:57:46,944 --> 00:57:51,044
cause like, look, people are dangerous that think that they have a capability that they don't.
870
00:57:51,784 --> 00:57:55,284
And I think jujitsu, like being on the mat, just in general forces you to realize
871
00:57:55,284 --> 00:57:58,344
like, yeah, I couldn't really do that.
872
00:57:58,544 --> 00:58:03,284
Right. Like I couldn't really do that if i needed to and competition can be
873
00:58:03,284 --> 00:58:05,544
a way of trying to make people realize it but,
874
00:58:06,284 --> 00:58:10,284
it's also turns into a game so it kind of changes what people would really do
875
00:58:10,284 --> 00:58:15,584
in real scenarios you know so what i just heard is that we need to find all
876
00:58:15,584 --> 00:58:17,744
these deer hunters they get buck fever,
877
00:58:18,244 --> 00:58:22,304
and just throw them in a bunch of competitions they'll steady their hand when
878
00:58:22,304 --> 00:58:26,784
that big bug comes out we could do a camp yeah could do a mini camp before every
879
00:58:26,784 --> 00:58:28,124
hunting season buck fever camp.
880
00:58:29,304 --> 00:58:36,244
Limited space I like it yeah just put you through like a gauntlet and get that heart rate down.
881
00:58:38,645 --> 00:58:42,005
All right. So, Bo, when did you get your black belt?
882
00:58:43,025 --> 00:58:46,485
Last year. I think it's March 2nd. It's up on the wall right there.
883
00:58:46,485 --> 00:58:49,945
Is it March 2nd? What is it? March 4th. March 4th. I think it's 2nd.
884
00:58:50,305 --> 00:58:55,205
So, yeah, I got my black belt on March 4th, and then we opened the new market
885
00:58:55,205 --> 00:58:57,505
on March 10th. Man, that was cool. Yeah.
886
00:58:58,325 --> 00:59:04,665
So, what did you used to think that meant, and what do you think it means now?
887
00:59:04,965 --> 00:59:11,385
God, dude, so much. much i used to think it would mean i was good i mean you
888
00:59:11,385 --> 00:59:12,605
are good and it don't do that.
889
00:59:13,465 --> 00:59:16,725
I don't know honestly i never i never thought about
890
00:59:16,725 --> 00:59:19,645
getting a black belt until i was well into my brown belt
891
00:59:19,645 --> 00:59:22,765
because i just i
892
00:59:22,765 --> 00:59:26,005
don't know i i can't explain it but i guess
893
00:59:26,005 --> 00:59:28,925
coming up through the ranks and all like you know
894
00:59:28,925 --> 00:59:32,545
toro was a purple belt and he was the only the
895
00:59:32,545 --> 00:59:35,385
only purple the only only guy that had any jiu-jitsu down
896
00:59:35,385 --> 00:59:38,185
here and we learned from him and then waffle got here
897
00:59:38,185 --> 00:59:42,185
as a brown soon to be black maybe and he
898
00:59:42,185 --> 00:59:45,645
was like a cheat code you know he was in california learning
899
00:59:45,645 --> 00:59:49,205
from some of the best guys in the world so
900
00:59:49,205 --> 00:59:52,345
but you got to realize i never rolled
901
00:59:52,345 --> 00:59:56,425
with a black belt until 2015-16 when
902
00:59:56,425 --> 00:59:59,305
i started coming back so it didn't seem
903
00:59:59,305 --> 01:00:02,225
like something that could happen in yeah i guess
904
01:00:02,225 --> 01:00:05,085
it's a lot different a lot different for you for you than me
905
01:00:05,085 --> 01:00:08,865
and both y'all yeah i mean.
906
01:00:08,865 --> 01:00:12,305
When i started the idea of black belts
907
01:00:12,305 --> 01:00:15,225
around yeah you saw one every day right so
908
01:00:15,225 --> 01:00:18,085
it it seems doable yeah but the
909
01:00:18,085 --> 01:00:20,805
guy that's been teaching me for the last four years is still a
910
01:00:20,805 --> 01:00:25,165
purple belt right you know scotty what
911
01:00:25,165 --> 01:00:29,285
about your view what what does it mean not let's
912
01:00:29,285 --> 01:00:34,145
ditch your view of what it was back then but what is it now so what would it
913
01:00:34,145 --> 01:00:38,565
be in a black belt now what's that mean i don't know i think it means a whole
914
01:00:38,565 --> 01:00:44,605
lot less than i think it used to speak to a white belt it's a tough question
915
01:00:44,605 --> 01:00:47,745
yeah that that makes it hard sorry white belts.
916
01:00:49,285 --> 01:00:56,145
No it makes it difficult because it's like okay how do you try to explain something
917
01:00:56,145 --> 01:00:59,665
to somebody on day one after you've been doing it,
918
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,840
let's do this two decades and you're the
919
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,740
depth of the way you're going to think about
920
01:01:06,740 --> 01:01:09,880
it it's like how do you put that into words let's
921
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,760
do it from this angle because i think this is what everyone's familiar with
922
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:19,420
people hear terms like sensei and master and grandmaster and professor grandmaster
923
01:01:19,420 --> 01:01:22,940
to the sensei no i can't stand it so when they hear black belt where did where
924
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:27,520
should they what is what is going on what is it what's this whole thing what's
925
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,520
the what draws them to it what's What's what's black belt mean?
926
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,720
What's being a master, a karate grandmaster?
927
01:01:35,020 --> 01:01:37,780
What is all that? I mean, you want to know what I think of it?
928
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Yeah, I think it's stupid.
929
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,900
Throw the belts away, guys. No, I think. All right. So I think the idea of calling
930
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:48,460
somebody master is dumb.
931
01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:51,340
Right. That's that's part of the reason why I've never wanted anybody to call
932
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:54,180
me since a master professor. Like I think all of it doesn't even make sense.
933
01:01:54,540 --> 01:01:58,700
I think it's, it's one of those deals where it's, it's a way to get people to
934
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:03,100
try to become subordinates, to get them to bow down to you in a specific way
935
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:08,900
so that you have some form of control over them and something to hold over them.
936
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:11,720
Because think about this, right? Like how many times would somebody have to
937
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:17,240
call you master such and such before it's just a normal thing and it creates
938
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,940
a view in your mind that they are over you.
939
01:02:21,336 --> 01:02:25,536
Like, that's the thing I don't like about it. And people can disagree with it, right? I'm pretty sure.
940
01:02:25,756 --> 01:02:28,736
Like, I know guys that are referred to as master such and such.
941
01:02:28,816 --> 01:02:30,816
I have no problem with those guys at all.
942
01:02:31,116 --> 01:02:35,756
But I don't believe in it. Like, I don't, I would never ask somebody to do that
943
01:02:35,756 --> 01:02:38,356
because that's just not what I believe.
944
01:02:38,516 --> 01:02:42,176
Now, when people take that thing on, like we used to call Master George,
945
01:02:42,336 --> 01:02:44,016
Master George, right? George Claymore.
946
01:02:44,556 --> 01:02:47,396
That was just a tradition. Like, once you got up to this certain rank,
947
01:02:47,536 --> 01:02:48,856
you were considered a master.
948
01:02:49,256 --> 01:02:52,916
And I get it. you you you have masters grandmasters
949
01:02:52,916 --> 01:02:55,656
whatever there's all these there's all this
950
01:02:55,656 --> 01:02:58,876
tradition in the yeah in those martial arts too but like
951
01:02:58,876 --> 01:03:02,036
jiu-jitsu is more relaxed dude we live in america yeah
952
01:03:02,036 --> 01:03:09,856
like master especially is not a good dude i just don't like what i just i don't
953
01:03:09,856 --> 01:03:13,476
i don't understand how we could still we could still like call people that like
954
01:03:13,476 --> 01:03:16,216
you're it's like a grown man right like think about it like you're calling another
955
01:03:16,216 --> 01:03:19,036
grown man your master it's like yeah Yeah, it's just weird.
956
01:03:19,416 --> 01:03:22,616
So I just don't buy into it. That's why I've never picked up on the sensei,
957
01:03:22,616 --> 01:03:27,216
professor, whatever. People call coach, whatever. People want to call coach. All right, I get it.
958
01:03:27,536 --> 01:03:30,356
But I'm good with just being called by my name.
959
01:03:31,656 --> 01:03:36,556
And I just don't like the way that it can create some of these really,
960
01:03:36,636 --> 01:03:43,496
really weird scenarios that end up not being too good when people like have
961
01:03:43,496 --> 01:03:44,876
people call them by that label.
962
01:03:46,376 --> 01:03:49,396
So yeah i'm just never like
963
01:03:49,396 --> 01:03:52,776
that i never did like it for that
964
01:03:52,776 --> 01:03:55,616
reason um but as
965
01:03:55,616 --> 01:03:59,116
far as what is a jiu-jitsu black belt i think
966
01:03:59,116 --> 01:04:02,436
you got to be at least you got to be a solid grappler you
967
01:04:02,436 --> 01:04:05,596
know you got to be able to somebody that
968
01:04:05,596 --> 01:04:08,896
goes and wins competitions as a black belt i don't think that
969
01:04:08,896 --> 01:04:13,856
they are necessarily it doesn't mean that they're going to be what i would consider
970
01:04:13,856 --> 01:04:17,916
or a black belt to be you might be able to go roll with black belts but that's
971
01:04:17,916 --> 01:04:24,756
not gonna make you a black belt i think it should be somebody that has stability
972
01:04:24,756 --> 01:04:27,476
in their own life to a degree,
973
01:04:27,996 --> 01:04:33,176
they live with a certain amount of happiness they can give guidance in certain
974
01:04:33,176 --> 01:04:34,516
directions because they have some
975
01:04:34,516 --> 01:04:38,276
life experience and whatever it is that they're going to be able to do.
976
01:04:39,809 --> 01:04:42,489
How, how good is a black? Well, I guess this could be a question.
977
01:04:42,569 --> 01:04:47,009
How good would a black belt be if the guy is the most bad-ass dude,
978
01:04:47,169 --> 01:04:52,929
but he ends up in prison for something that's just so grotesque that you can't
979
01:04:52,929 --> 01:04:56,609
even imagine how you would have ever taken any advice from an individual like that.
980
01:04:56,909 --> 01:05:01,369
I'm not talking about some dude that, you know, lost his mind because he,
981
01:05:01,509 --> 01:05:07,029
you know, got in a wreck and seen his, his kid bleed out and die in the back seat.
982
01:05:07,069 --> 01:05:10,629
And he goes grab the a dude that hit him and just beats the dude to 11 points.
983
01:05:10,729 --> 01:05:11,489
That's not what I'm talking about.
984
01:05:11,669 --> 01:05:14,089
I'm talking about somebody that just does something so foul.
985
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:17,169
Like there's a dude named Cameron Earl, right?
986
01:05:17,549 --> 01:05:23,529
Cameron Earl was one of the top dudes in the grappling world in the 90s.
987
01:05:24,649 --> 01:05:28,229
He's got windows over some really, really high-level competitors.
988
01:05:30,969 --> 01:05:35,269
He is in prison now because apparently he was raping women. It's like,
989
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:37,929
but he was a black belt. Like, was he?
990
01:05:38,489 --> 01:05:42,149
You know, so like, I don't think that's a black, I don't think that's what makes a black belt.
991
01:05:42,169 --> 01:05:46,249
I think he has all the ability of a very good competitive guy,
992
01:05:46,369 --> 01:05:52,829
but I don't think he's somebody we should, we should try to gain advice from, you know?
993
01:05:52,829 --> 01:05:57,549
So maybe a black belt is a person that has a certain level of ability as a martial
994
01:05:57,549 --> 01:06:00,069
artist in whatever it is that they're teaching,
995
01:06:00,629 --> 01:06:09,009
but can also provide some guidance for newer people in that realm.
996
01:06:09,809 --> 01:06:14,129
So it's somebody that's got some stability in their life that they can be trusted
997
01:06:14,129 --> 01:06:16,529
to shoot people in the right direction.
998
01:06:16,589 --> 01:06:20,069
You don't have to worry about them being on some kind of crazy thing like that.
999
01:06:22,327 --> 01:06:28,067
A good person in the community that knows how to grapple, I guess. I have a side question.
1000
01:06:28,767 --> 01:06:32,747
So how many bike belts have you given out? Me? Yeah.
1001
01:06:33,047 --> 01:06:36,367
How many do you consider? I guess it's not a simple of a question.
1002
01:06:36,467 --> 01:06:38,427
Two. Jonah and yourself, I would consider.
1003
01:06:40,187 --> 01:06:48,067
Waffle did Jonas, but Jonah primarily trained, like I taught Jonah more than anybody else.
1004
01:06:48,087 --> 01:06:54,567
So you could say that and you so how much thought did you like that i feel like
1005
01:06:54,567 --> 01:06:58,567
that's a big deal giving a bike belt to another person so like how much thought
1006
01:06:58,567 --> 01:06:59,807
did you have to put into that,
1007
01:07:00,307 --> 01:07:03,167
for y'all to like your first your
1008
01:07:03,167 --> 01:07:06,327
first or second one yeah like i mean i
1009
01:07:06,327 --> 01:07:09,047
guess once it gets to a certain point you know what you're looking for and all
1010
01:07:09,047 --> 01:07:12,167
but well i mean y'all y'all for sure
1011
01:07:12,167 --> 01:07:16,127
are example of what i just tried to explain right like y'all
1012
01:07:16,127 --> 01:07:19,307
are dedicated in the gym y'all y'all
1013
01:07:19,307 --> 01:07:25,047
train consistently so like on the mat stuff i feel like you you show up and
1014
01:07:25,047 --> 01:07:29,487
you train you're gonna get better you're gonna improve and at some point it's
1015
01:07:29,487 --> 01:07:32,747
like well why isn't he getting his black belt yet and when i start thinking
1016
01:07:32,747 --> 01:07:36,507
about that that's when it's like probably about a you
1017
01:07:36,587 --> 01:07:39,107
know, a year before that person gets it.
1018
01:07:40,087 --> 01:07:45,567
But yeah, I'm not worried about like exactly, oh, the person's got to know this
1019
01:07:45,567 --> 01:07:49,247
move and this move and this move, but it's like, no man, he's on the mat. He's training.
1020
01:07:49,567 --> 01:07:52,127
He can roll with other guys at that level.
1021
01:07:52,587 --> 01:07:56,867
Whether it's like, like you, you can train and you can keep yourself safe for
1022
01:07:56,867 --> 01:07:58,507
the most part when you're rolling.
1023
01:07:58,587 --> 01:08:02,487
Right. Like, so you can go roll with a world-class black belt and And you can
1024
01:08:02,487 --> 01:08:08,187
keep yourself safe, rolling with that absolute monster if he plays by the rules
1025
01:08:08,187 --> 01:08:10,867
and y'all play by the rules. Like to me, that's good enough.
1026
01:08:12,938 --> 01:08:15,818
And you can present some problems that that person's going to have to deal with,
1027
01:08:15,878 --> 01:08:19,798
you know, like to me, that's, that's, you're there, you're playing the game
1028
01:08:19,798 --> 01:08:23,758
at that level versus the guy that doesn't know anything that can,
1029
01:08:23,878 --> 01:08:27,678
you got to worry about them getting hurt because they don't know when to tap
1030
01:08:27,678 --> 01:08:30,418
or they don't know. And that's another thing too, man.
1031
01:08:30,898 --> 01:08:34,858
Like, like if you're a black belt and you don't know how to tap and you don't
1032
01:08:34,858 --> 01:08:36,918
know when you should, that's a problem.
1033
01:08:37,438 --> 01:08:41,818
Like that's a big problem. And so I questioned whether or not the guy's a black
1034
01:08:41,818 --> 01:08:43,338
belt based on and the way some of them tap.
1035
01:08:44,018 --> 01:08:51,798
Like for me, I've rolled with guys for sure that are of that rank and you're
1036
01:08:51,798 --> 01:08:53,738
like, yeah, you should be tapping right now.
1037
01:08:54,318 --> 01:08:59,058
And then they don't. It's like, all right, that tells me all I need to know.
1038
01:09:00,338 --> 01:09:06,618
It's like you got to respect a roll enough as a black belt or you got to understand
1039
01:09:06,618 --> 01:09:10,738
how to roll like a black belt, which I think boils down to like,
1040
01:09:10,798 --> 01:09:11,998
no, you're not going to get pissed off.
1041
01:09:11,998 --> 01:09:15,018
You're not going to get aggravated you're not gonna gonna you know
1042
01:09:15,018 --> 01:09:17,978
be butthurt if you get submitted or whatever it is
1043
01:09:17,978 --> 01:09:20,918
but you know how to handle that scenario
1044
01:09:20,918 --> 01:09:23,978
you're not gonna you know
1045
01:09:23,978 --> 01:09:27,898
come after with all the fire in your eyes and everything because you're just
1046
01:09:27,898 --> 01:09:33,078
angry that you got caught by somebody or whatever it is but you can handle that
1047
01:09:33,078 --> 01:09:40,078
with the same same level of energy that you you had before it like to me that
1048
01:09:40,078 --> 01:09:42,298
means just as much as being able to tap some money.
1049
01:09:43,858 --> 01:09:46,918
So you guys know how to do that and y'all
1050
01:09:46,918 --> 01:09:49,718
are effective enough like like you
1051
01:09:49,718 --> 01:09:55,598
don't have to be some world champion black belt you know but people can respect
1052
01:09:55,598 --> 01:09:59,698
your ability and i think by that time it's like they're good enough to be a
1053
01:09:59,698 --> 01:10:05,198
black belt and then it's just making sure that you try well Well,
1054
01:10:05,198 --> 01:10:07,418
for me, it was a big deal to try to make sure I gave it.
1055
01:10:07,838 --> 01:10:12,918
Like, I never want anybody to feel like it's a, it's a gimme because that's
1056
01:10:12,918 --> 01:10:14,458
going to devalue it in the person's mind.
1057
01:10:15,098 --> 01:10:17,818
Like you want them to know that what they did was worth it. So like if somebody
1058
01:10:17,818 --> 01:10:20,938
trains for two years and you give them a black belt, they know it's BS, right?
1059
01:10:21,018 --> 01:10:24,318
Like they know that you, eh, whatever, right? Yeah.
1060
01:10:25,721 --> 01:10:31,201
Think as long as we are sticking to that idea where the person knows that they
1061
01:10:31,201 --> 01:10:35,421
put the time in i think that's a that's that's a huge component and to go along
1062
01:10:35,421 --> 01:10:36,621
with the other stuff you know like,
1063
01:10:37,281 --> 01:10:41,381
you know if i got to worry about somebody coming unhinged
1064
01:10:41,381 --> 01:10:44,601
maybe it's not time to promote them to that you know
1065
01:10:44,601 --> 01:10:48,841
it's part of the reason why like even my son right like ty's 18 and i can tell
1066
01:10:48,841 --> 01:10:54,061
you right now he's not getting his black belt before he's 22 you know like ibjjf
1067
01:10:54,061 --> 01:11:01,741
says you can do it at 19 he's still a blue belt you know because i want him to make sure that he is.
1068
01:11:02,781 --> 01:11:09,421
Committing enough of his self before he gets promoted anymore and as a black
1069
01:11:09,421 --> 01:11:13,121
belt i don't want to have to worry about him going out to a bar and getting
1070
01:11:13,121 --> 01:11:17,901
drunk and getting into some kind of crazy altercation like i want to know at
1071
01:11:17,901 --> 01:11:21,861
least he had a year to to find out if he's going to be that individual or if
1072
01:11:21,861 --> 01:11:22,601
he's going to be able to leave,
1073
01:11:22,721 --> 01:11:25,281
you know? So like, I don't want to have to worry about that stuff with him.
1074
01:11:25,661 --> 01:11:29,321
And I think, I think when you know that about somebody's personality,
1075
01:11:29,461 --> 01:11:32,581
then okay, they're ready to be a black belt, you know?
1076
01:11:33,021 --> 01:11:37,001
Like, I don't worry about Jonah going out and getting into some stupid thing.
1077
01:11:37,141 --> 01:11:38,061
I don't worry about that with you.
1078
01:11:38,481 --> 01:11:42,201
Right. I don't worry about that with Shane. I wish somebody would step up to Jonah.
1079
01:11:42,941 --> 01:11:52,141
Like, it's a lot to it so there is some stuff to think about but it it's it it's making sure that,
1080
01:11:52,681 --> 01:12:01,481
you have the right individual to award it to for what you think it is and i
1081
01:12:01,481 --> 01:12:06,821
think you have to have the on the mat ability and the personality to represent
1082
01:12:06,821 --> 01:12:09,261
what you believe martial arts should be.
1083
01:12:09,781 --> 01:12:15,941
To me, that's a big deal, right? Like, I'm not worried about a good jiu-jitsu
1084
01:12:15,941 --> 01:12:17,621
guy, right? To me, that's.
1085
01:12:19,644 --> 01:12:23,284
Us to have good martial artists that get there
1086
01:12:23,284 --> 01:12:26,304
by training jiu-jitsu and i believe that
1087
01:12:26,304 --> 01:12:31,484
you guys are and that's that's why i promoted y'all to that i say i promoted
1088
01:12:31,484 --> 01:12:38,704
y'all but that's that's why i got that promotion so yeah i think i think everybody
1089
01:12:38,704 --> 01:12:42,744
needs to to take that into consideration you know it's it's it's i don't know
1090
01:12:42,744 --> 01:12:45,584
it is a tough decision because you don't want to shortchange somebody body, you know?
1091
01:12:47,184 --> 01:12:53,664
Yeah. All right. Good stuff. So Shane, you're on the cusp of your bag belt. What is it?
1092
01:12:54,104 --> 01:12:56,284
What do you think it's going to mean to you when you get there?
1093
01:12:56,964 --> 01:12:59,144
Been a brown belt for a year, over a year.
1094
01:13:00,164 --> 01:13:05,084
It's, I mean, it's going to mean a lot. It's going to mean, I guess it gets
1095
01:13:05,084 --> 01:13:08,404
to mean a different thing for, for everyone.
1096
01:13:09,244 --> 01:13:14,124
And I think that's what's cool about it because you don't really get to teach anyone what it means.
1097
01:13:14,244 --> 01:13:17,924
You can explain what it meant for you, but it doesn't mean it's going to mean
1098
01:13:17,924 --> 01:13:21,984
the same things for the guys you give it to, which is pretty powerful.
1099
01:13:22,604 --> 01:13:27,004
You know, like anything in life, the more you put into something,
1100
01:13:27,224 --> 01:13:30,884
the more the rewards mean, whatever the rewards are.
1101
01:13:31,104 --> 01:13:34,564
So if you train, you know, seven days a week for a tournament,
1102
01:13:34,684 --> 01:13:38,044
it's probably going to feel better to win than if you trained three
1103
01:13:38,044 --> 01:13:43,404
days a week and when you if you're promoted to black belt it's probably going
1104
01:13:43,404 --> 01:13:48,984
to mean a lot more if you've been doing it for 20 years than if you were doing
1105
01:13:48,984 --> 01:13:54,304
it for seven years and you won a world championship you know because you're
1106
01:13:54,304 --> 01:13:55,604
really fast and you're really strong.
1107
01:13:57,509 --> 01:14:00,329
That sure it's going to mean a lot to that guy, but he doesn't,
1108
01:14:00,329 --> 01:14:04,569
he doesn't get to understand the deeper meaning or the deeper feeling that the
1109
01:14:04,569 --> 01:14:08,109
other guy gets to feel, you know, and there's no way to explain it.
1110
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:11,629
It's just the only way to feel it is to, is for it to happen to you.
1111
01:14:12,649 --> 01:14:18,709
And I think it would also plays a big part is who you're getting from and the,
1112
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:23,589
you know, the, the crew that you're surrounded with, you know?
1113
01:14:23,609 --> 01:14:29,889
So I think our gym is, it's the place I would want to get that credential from,
1114
01:14:30,049 --> 01:14:32,669
you know, that means a lot.
1115
01:14:33,109 --> 01:14:37,589
You know, once you, once you have respect for, for some guys and you think they
1116
01:14:37,589 --> 01:14:41,769
have respect for you, it, man, it all, it all makes a lot more sense.
1117
01:14:41,849 --> 01:14:44,789
It all feels different. All, all feels better.
1118
01:14:45,789 --> 01:14:50,589
For me, the, what I've been thinking about a lot lately is I've been thinking
1119
01:14:50,589 --> 01:14:57,949
about the idea of, you know, black belt skill level, but across all walks of life,
1120
01:14:58,089 --> 01:15:02,549
across all industries, across all hobbies, sports, whatever.
1121
01:15:03,749 --> 01:15:09,169
I really like that. Like go to a, you know, you go to a doctor's office and
1122
01:15:09,169 --> 01:15:15,749
there is a one year tech and then there's a doctor, a guy that's been a doctor
1123
01:15:15,749 --> 01:15:18,669
for 30 years and just listen to the way they talk to the patient.
1124
01:15:19,029 --> 01:15:26,589
And when you hear the doctor, you go that, that he's been doing this for so long.
1125
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:31,189
Like his communication skills are just, they're black belt. Like,
1126
01:15:31,209 --> 01:15:33,389
look, look how good he can make this patient feel.
1127
01:15:33,809 --> 01:15:38,369
You know, whereas this tech is just raising anxiety because they're,
1128
01:15:38,369 --> 01:15:40,589
they sound like they're grilling you for questions.
1129
01:15:40,629 --> 01:15:46,269
And then you're, you know, you're kind of panicky and you're stressed and then
1130
01:15:46,269 --> 01:15:48,629
the doctor comes in and he can make everything,
1131
01:15:49,389 --> 01:15:52,509
like at ease you know everything's normal everything's
1132
01:15:52,509 --> 01:15:59,369
okay just by the the communication skills he has that the confidence and the
1133
01:15:59,369 --> 01:16:06,289
the effortlessness you know and that that's everywhere no matter where you go
1134
01:16:06,289 --> 01:16:10,629
you i look for those guys and i and i try to think about all right what are they doing?
1135
01:16:10,929 --> 01:16:15,749
What is the skill behind what are they doing? And really how good are they at that?
1136
01:16:17,511 --> 01:16:21,511
To bring more belt systems to other industries sure we've talked about doing
1137
01:16:21,511 --> 01:16:25,371
uh belt systems for our butchers we'll do acorn colors yeah for a long time
1138
01:16:25,371 --> 01:16:26,571
so maybe it's time to implement,
1139
01:16:27,151 --> 01:16:29,931
no it's it's real and if i think if you
1140
01:16:29,931 --> 01:16:32,631
use martial arts and you use the ideas that you know
1141
01:16:32,631 --> 01:16:35,431
we've come accustomed to and you do apply it to
1142
01:16:35,431 --> 01:16:38,311
all the other things you're doing and you
1143
01:16:38,311 --> 01:16:41,471
pursue i remember scotty saying this a long time
1144
01:16:41,471 --> 01:16:44,791
ago don't you know don't get
1145
01:16:44,791 --> 01:16:47,631
tunnel vision on becoming a black belt like you
1146
01:16:47,631 --> 01:16:50,631
don't want to be a black belt you want to do black belt
1147
01:16:50,631 --> 01:16:53,831
things so that resonated with
1148
01:16:53,831 --> 01:16:57,211
me and that then it i mean makes total sense like it doesn't
1149
01:16:57,211 --> 01:16:59,891
matter if like you said you if a guy
1150
01:16:59,891 --> 01:17:03,391
comes in and scotty wants to give him a black belt in three years he can do
1151
01:17:03,391 --> 01:17:08,531
it right but can that guy do black belt things with his black belt you know
1152
01:17:08,531 --> 01:17:13,291
and that that's up for interpretation it's up for what you think black belt
1153
01:17:13,291 --> 01:17:16,071
things are so scotty says he He thinks black belt things is,
1154
01:17:16,151 --> 01:17:17,851
you know, being a good man,
1155
01:17:17,951 --> 01:17:23,171
like being, setting an example out in town and, you know, taking care of your shit and your life.
1156
01:17:24,331 --> 01:17:30,131
For other gyms, maybe not so much. Maybe they don't really care about what you do outside the gym.
1157
01:17:30,511 --> 01:17:35,811
You know, if I'm the gym owner and I'm a black belt and you can tap me, you're a black belt.
1158
01:17:36,251 --> 01:17:41,011
Yeah. You know, and that's probably running rampant in our country,
1159
01:17:41,091 --> 01:17:43,651
I would assume, right now more than ever.
1160
01:17:43,651 --> 01:17:50,811
And so I, I think why I have a strong connection to, to the way Scotty sees
1161
01:17:50,811 --> 01:17:53,451
things is I do see it sort of like this place.
1162
01:17:53,511 --> 01:17:59,191
Like I see it. I know he likes the old school mentality and the,
1163
01:17:59,251 --> 01:18:05,631
and the art of it and the specialness of it, just as we do with our things that,
1164
01:18:05,691 --> 01:18:10,211
you know, our calf cuts and the processes in which we do things. And, and.
1165
01:18:11,616 --> 01:18:14,936
Me that means a lot you know to
1166
01:18:14,936 --> 01:18:17,796
a to another guy who just didn't have
1167
01:18:17,796 --> 01:18:20,816
the same experiences and the same conversations it might
1168
01:18:20,816 --> 01:18:26,156
not and that's fine you know but i would like to and i think we should like
1169
01:18:26,156 --> 01:18:32,116
we we owe it to the next generation to like hey it doesn't have to just be this
1170
01:18:32,116 --> 01:18:36,356
it doesn't have to just be coming to class three nights a week like it can also
1171
01:18:36,356 --> 01:18:40,536
be this it can also be this It can also be this. It can also help your relationship.
1172
01:18:40,816 --> 01:18:44,716
It can also, you know, with your spouse, your kids, your employees,
1173
01:18:44,976 --> 01:18:50,376
whatever it is, you can use these concepts and you have to realize,
1174
01:18:50,456 --> 01:18:53,436
like, you have to look at every aspect of your life and say,
1175
01:18:53,576 --> 01:18:56,296
man, what belt am I in this?
1176
01:18:56,296 --> 01:19:00,496
Business, finance, health, your diet.
1177
01:19:00,676 --> 01:19:05,956
Everyone should be able to say, once they've trained for a few years,
1178
01:19:06,076 --> 01:19:11,416
they should be able to say, man, what is my skill level with dieting?
1179
01:19:11,916 --> 01:19:16,236
Am I a black belt? If not, who do I know that's a black belt in dieting?
1180
01:19:16,576 --> 01:19:18,196
Let me go ask that guy some questions.
1181
01:19:18,576 --> 01:19:22,136
You know, that's how I've learned to look at things.
1182
01:19:22,236 --> 01:19:26,096
And that absolutely comes, came from jiu-jitsu the
1183
01:19:26,096 --> 01:19:28,916
other cool thing about not just jiu-jitsu but all of
1184
01:19:28,916 --> 01:19:31,736
these things that we do and learn more about
1185
01:19:31,736 --> 01:19:35,096
is like the bleed over into other often
1186
01:19:35,096 --> 01:19:38,596
unexpected like aspects so for example
1187
01:19:38,596 --> 01:19:41,696
getting getting good at jiu-jitsu doesn't just
1188
01:19:41,696 --> 01:19:44,716
make you better at grappling another person right it
1189
01:19:44,716 --> 01:19:47,896
teaches you how to deal with pressure and tough situations and
1190
01:19:47,896 --> 01:19:51,056
a lot of that bleeds over into you know into
1191
01:19:51,056 --> 01:19:54,976
work and and whatever else so it yeah
1192
01:19:54,976 --> 01:19:58,336
it's more the more you put in the more you get out yeah
1193
01:19:58,336 --> 01:20:01,456
you see and that's something that i can tell you for sure gets missed
1194
01:20:01,456 --> 01:20:06,316
off a lot like i had a guy black belt tell me one day he's like he's like you
1195
01:20:06,316 --> 01:20:09,456
know i can't stand some of these jiu-jitsu guys and i'm assuming he was talking
1196
01:20:09,456 --> 01:20:13,616
about me he said uh he said i can't stand some of these jiu-jitsu guys that
1197
01:20:13,616 --> 01:20:15,976
think just because they got a black belt that they know things about things
1198
01:20:15,976 --> 01:20:18,776
or they know things about everything or whatever.
1199
01:20:18,896 --> 01:20:23,096
And I'm like, thinking in my head, huh, that's interesting for a black belt to think that way.
1200
01:20:23,536 --> 01:20:28,176
You know, it's like, to me, that's so far off of the way that he should be thinking about it.
1201
01:20:28,216 --> 01:20:30,376
It's like, no, no, it doesn't mean, you know, everything about everything,
1202
01:20:30,456 --> 01:20:35,076
but I think what it should be able to tell people and teach them is like,
1203
01:20:35,116 --> 01:20:39,576
whatever it took you to get to that level in training,
1204
01:20:39,716 --> 01:20:45,216
like to get that level of recognition from whoever it is that you're training
1205
01:20:45,216 --> 01:20:46,556
with or under or whatever it might be.
1206
01:20:47,676 --> 01:20:54,056
Whatever they seen that got you there, if you take that same formula and just
1207
01:20:54,056 --> 01:20:57,736
apply it to everything else that you do, you're going to get better at everything
1208
01:20:57,736 --> 01:20:59,416
else too. It's like, so...
1209
01:21:01,011 --> 01:21:05,231
Doesn't mean you're a pro at finance because you're a black belt in jujitsu.
1210
01:21:05,351 --> 01:21:09,051
But I think if you take the same approach to your finances or whatever it is
1211
01:21:09,051 --> 01:21:11,251
you're doing, you're going to get better at it.
1212
01:21:11,391 --> 01:21:16,571
It's just knowing how to develop or create a process for improvement.
1213
01:21:17,211 --> 01:21:22,351
And jujitsu can very much be maybe a metaphor for that.
1214
01:21:22,831 --> 01:21:26,331
It's not just a metaphor, Scotty, and thank you for that beautiful segue.
1215
01:21:26,831 --> 01:21:32,991
So you dropped out of high school, didn't, didn't get any college learning,
1216
01:21:33,111 --> 01:21:37,511
but you figured out how to run a very successful martial arts school.
1217
01:21:37,811 --> 01:21:41,271
And you figured out how to do marketing, how to build a website,
1218
01:21:41,511 --> 01:21:46,471
how to keep and retain clients, how to teach kids, how to talk to parents,
1219
01:21:46,651 --> 01:21:51,131
how to sell yourself and your product all on your own.
1220
01:21:51,471 --> 01:21:54,271
And I'm assuming me it's because you're a black belt but maybe you
1221
01:21:54,271 --> 01:21:57,531
have a better answer i don't know how did
1222
01:21:57,531 --> 01:22:00,351
that go dude you started a school from nothing in a
1223
01:22:00,351 --> 01:22:03,071
new town so you didn't just make
1224
01:22:03,071 --> 01:22:07,371
it work like you don't have to have another job no so
1225
01:22:07,371 --> 01:22:11,711
part of it was listening to jonah if i'd have listened to jonah i'd have started
1226
01:22:11,711 --> 01:22:16,031
it way sooner so that's i don't know if that was a good decision on my part
1227
01:22:16,031 --> 01:22:20,331
or a bad decision but the reason why i didn't start it as a purple belt honestly
1228
01:22:20,331 --> 01:22:23,651
i think what jonah was trying to do was get me into Thibodeau so that he didn't have to drive to Houma.
1229
01:22:23,731 --> 01:22:26,271
I think that's what Jonah was trying to do. Correct. And I would have started back training sooner.
1230
01:22:26,471 --> 01:22:31,371
So, but I was a purple belt and I knew that I couldn't promote people to certain
1231
01:22:31,371 --> 01:22:32,851
ranks until I got a black belt.
1232
01:22:32,931 --> 01:22:37,651
So I didn't want to, I didn't want to have to hold anybody back because of my rank.
1233
01:22:38,691 --> 01:22:43,251
And I also knew that I needed more time to figure out how to develop a curriculum and all that stuff.
1234
01:22:43,351 --> 01:22:48,151
Right. So it was probably about five years of figuring that out before I actually
1235
01:22:48,151 --> 01:22:57,491
And so, listening to Jonah, Jonah is an enormous part of why the gym actually survived.
1236
01:22:58,051 --> 01:23:04,371
Another thing that a lot of people don't know about the gym making it is that,
1237
01:23:05,191 --> 01:23:10,811
Johnny Perez's wife, Ana, Ana, I think Ana might've been the one that got me
1238
01:23:10,811 --> 01:23:14,411
set up with the little space inside of the VOW, but I don't know.
1239
01:23:15,469 --> 01:23:21,629
She put in a good word for me. And that's, that's something that I even forget
1240
01:23:21,629 --> 01:23:24,229
about every once in a while that, that they played a role in that.
1241
01:23:24,949 --> 01:23:29,189
So I'm pretty sure she, she was a big reason as far as that happening.
1242
01:23:29,829 --> 01:23:35,289
So like I had good people that I met from teaching their kids or them that helped
1243
01:23:35,289 --> 01:23:36,749
get this whole thing started.
1244
01:23:36,969 --> 01:23:40,969
I think without that, all of that might've took a lot longer to get going.
1245
01:23:41,509 --> 01:23:45,649
So, you know, I think I was lucky enough to have those individuals,
1246
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:48,029
but I didn't know what I was doing.
1247
01:23:48,389 --> 01:23:51,949
Like I have a clue. I just showed up and did it.
1248
01:23:52,329 --> 01:23:55,909
And I made sure that if there was a class, I was going to show up and I was going to teach.
1249
01:23:56,489 --> 01:24:02,409
And so the things that I learned out of necessity was just because I had to,
1250
01:24:02,429 --> 01:24:05,529
like I had to show up and I had to open and I had to have a class.
1251
01:24:05,809 --> 01:24:09,129
And I knew if I did that and just got everybody body training.
1252
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:14,469
If I kept doing that, stayed consistent, then that's all it took for me to get
1253
01:24:14,469 --> 01:24:16,749
the black belt was show up and train.
1254
01:24:17,269 --> 01:24:20,929
So then I just did the same thing, but tried to do it as a teacher.
1255
01:24:21,409 --> 01:24:25,369
And I also learned a lot of stuff teaching while I was teaching at Waffles too.
1256
01:24:25,949 --> 01:24:29,429
Because you got to remember, I was teaching a lot of the, pretty much almost
1257
01:24:29,429 --> 01:24:32,329
all the classes there for a pretty long period of time.
1258
01:24:32,409 --> 01:24:36,349
So I got a lot of trial and error, made a lot of mistakes teaching kids you
1259
01:24:36,349 --> 01:24:41,049
know trying to play with the kids too much and kids ended up with bloody noses
1260
01:24:41,049 --> 01:24:45,229
because we're having big dog piles and like i'm rolling with like 10 kids and
1261
01:24:45,229 --> 01:24:49,149
kids are kicking each other in the head hell yeah you know like like bring it
1262
01:24:49,149 --> 01:24:51,149
back so yeah bring it back so.
1263
01:24:52,449 --> 01:24:56,769
Like thunderdome that still happens now but uh it's not me anymore trep trep
1264
01:24:56,769 --> 01:25:01,869
and jordan sometimes get dog piled by the kids yes they do but the kids love
1265
01:25:01,869 --> 01:25:05,129
it you know but too much of it is not good because kids just get hurt and they
1266
01:25:05,129 --> 01:25:08,409
get rambunctious and they start not necessarily respecting instructors the way
1267
01:25:08,409 --> 01:25:11,609
they should but you know i made a lot of mistakes like that.
1268
01:25:13,191 --> 01:25:19,111
Able to learn from before opening but like the intention was always to do better
1269
01:25:19,111 --> 01:25:23,751
and i think that's why i've learned how to do some of the stuff you know i do
1270
01:25:23,751 --> 01:25:24,811
i know how to build a website,
1271
01:25:25,671 --> 01:25:30,451
kind of sort of i can get by but it's like i'd have to relearn it every time
1272
01:25:30,451 --> 01:25:36,871
i try and that only happened because i got messed over online by a guy i wish i remember his name,
1273
01:25:37,531 --> 01:25:41,171
can't remember his name but you know he told me he was going to build a site
1274
01:25:41,171 --> 01:25:44,871
and got paid for it, and halfway finished it. Oh, shit.
1275
01:25:44,951 --> 01:25:48,231
So I was left with trying to figure out, okay, what did he...
1276
01:25:48,231 --> 01:25:50,491
I guess I should have just learned it to start with.
1277
01:25:50,531 --> 01:25:55,711
Right. So I took it as a very expensive lesson on, hey, just figure out how
1278
01:25:55,711 --> 01:26:00,211
to do it just in case somebody ever does that again, or you don't have to ask.
1279
01:26:00,451 --> 01:26:04,111
So I pushed myself to learn how to do that. As far as marketing goes,
1280
01:26:04,271 --> 01:26:05,811
man, I still don't know how to do that.
1281
01:26:05,971 --> 01:26:08,931
I just know that if you put something on social media, sometimes it works.
1282
01:26:08,931 --> 01:26:11,851
I never wanted to sell anything to anybody.
1283
01:26:12,771 --> 01:26:16,911
And I was told pretty early on, hey, you're now you're selling stuff.
1284
01:26:17,091 --> 01:26:18,331
You need to get good at selling stuff.
1285
01:26:18,951 --> 01:26:22,851
And I remember thinking my whole sales pitch was going to be like,
1286
01:26:22,911 --> 01:26:28,071
well, like I hate going to a shoe department and go and pick out shoes.
1287
01:26:28,231 --> 01:26:31,271
And the guy's trying to sell me a pair of shoes. It's like, no,
1288
01:26:31,371 --> 01:26:36,531
I want people to just want to come train the same as I go buy me a pair of shoes.
1289
01:26:36,531 --> 01:26:43,031
It's like, if I know I need shoes, I go somewhere, I try on shoes and I buy the one I like.
1290
01:26:43,271 --> 01:26:46,631
I wanted people to be able to walk in the gym and do the same thing.
1291
01:26:46,671 --> 01:26:49,311
Like, yeah, go here, go there, go wherever you want.
1292
01:26:49,411 --> 01:26:52,811
But if you want to train, pick the one you like. Like, you know,
1293
01:26:52,811 --> 01:26:56,671
I didn't want to have to have some kind of big old sales pitch as far as why
1294
01:26:56,671 --> 01:27:01,511
you need to train with us versus the people down the road or try to try to have this spreadsheet,
1295
01:27:01,731 --> 01:27:06,971
you know, basically set up for, you know, how do you take a call?
1296
01:27:07,051 --> 01:27:09,011
Well, you ask this question, you do this question, you do this question.
1297
01:27:09,071 --> 01:27:11,911
I never wanted it to be that way, you know, because of the way I looked at it
1298
01:27:11,911 --> 01:27:15,171
is like, if I get on the phone with somebody, I don't need to tell them much
1299
01:27:15,171 --> 01:27:16,411
if they're not going to walk through the door.
1300
01:27:16,411 --> 01:27:22,091
And that's supposed to maybe be the point of having a call sheet is to get them to come into the door.
1301
01:27:22,171 --> 01:27:26,171
But it's like, I'm not going to be any different in person than I am on the phone.
1302
01:27:26,311 --> 01:27:29,291
So, you know, they'll sign up and if they didn't like me on the phone,
1303
01:27:29,391 --> 01:27:33,811
they're probably not going to like me in person. So why make it seem like something it's not?
1304
01:27:35,428 --> 01:27:41,108
It was just more trying to just show up and be the individual that I try to
1305
01:27:41,108 --> 01:27:44,628
be every day and let it do what it's going to do.
1306
01:27:45,208 --> 01:27:49,248
Not necessarily worry too much about making the money of it.
1307
01:27:49,328 --> 01:27:50,588
I never really cared about that.
1308
01:27:50,888 --> 01:27:54,748
It just kind of worked its way to where that's how I make a living now.
1309
01:27:54,868 --> 01:27:58,608
And I think I probably put in just as many hours a day now as I used to when
1310
01:27:58,608 --> 01:27:59,508
I was working at Gulf Island.
1311
01:28:00,308 --> 01:28:05,668
It's just I'm not aggravated every morning when I wake up. So I'll give Scotty a little sales pitch.
1312
01:28:06,268 --> 01:28:11,568
He is, of course, really good at jujitsu. Any adult classes are a lot of fun.
1313
01:28:11,688 --> 01:28:13,488
So if you're thinking about joining, do it.
1314
01:28:13,828 --> 01:28:16,908
But if you have kids, you shouldn't think about it.
1315
01:28:16,928 --> 01:28:22,028
You should just bring them to class because Scotty is a phenomenal,
1316
01:28:22,268 --> 01:28:26,948
phenomenal with the kids. It's my kids go and I help teach sometimes.
1317
01:28:27,088 --> 01:28:31,648
And it's, it's something really cool even to just watch him work with them.
1318
01:28:31,728 --> 01:28:35,728
And the way that they listen to him way better than their parents is,
1319
01:28:35,748 --> 01:28:37,188
is really awesome to see.
1320
01:28:37,568 --> 01:28:41,148
Plus they're learning how to defend themselves and getting a good workout in.
1321
01:28:41,508 --> 01:28:45,868
And the other thing is since Scotty is a friend and we talk a lot,
1322
01:28:45,908 --> 01:28:49,948
he's constantly working on his curriculum, adding, taking off.
1323
01:28:50,008 --> 01:28:52,108
He doesn't stop jujitsu.
1324
01:28:52,568 --> 01:29:00,168
You know so not that's to take that look man we we've we've got a lot of good
1325
01:29:00,168 --> 01:29:04,248
people that are involved now right so like what's crazy to me is i didn't realize
1326
01:29:04,248 --> 01:29:09,168
it until the other day i think it might have been joey joey's like man you you
1327
01:29:09,168 --> 01:29:11,188
got a lot of business owners that come over here.
1328
01:29:11,708 --> 01:29:15,068
And i stopped and thought about him like yeah he's actually right like we
1329
01:29:15,068 --> 01:29:18,088
got a lot of people that train with us that actually either own a
1330
01:29:18,088 --> 01:29:20,888
business or you know have something that they do on the side for
1331
01:29:20,888 --> 01:29:24,348
themselves and it dawned on me i'm like crap like
1332
01:29:24,348 --> 01:29:28,248
that is that's true you know and those individuals are
1333
01:29:28,248 --> 01:29:31,108
actually taking a lot of like some some
1334
01:29:31,108 --> 01:29:33,868
of the guys in particular like jeremy right jeremy's got
1335
01:29:33,868 --> 01:29:36,568
his own business jeremy finds time to come help with the kids
1336
01:29:36,568 --> 01:29:40,008
classes which i find is awesome right like trap does
1337
01:29:40,008 --> 01:29:45,028
the same thing and so all these people that actually or entrepreneurs themselves
1338
01:29:45,028 --> 01:29:51,668
for whatever reason they're they see the value in helping the kids which makes
1339
01:29:51,668 --> 01:29:56,608
everything that happens at the gym way easier for me like it helps out so much,
1340
01:29:57,168 --> 01:30:01,948
so i can't say that you know like you say scotty scotty scotty it's like no
1341
01:30:01,948 --> 01:30:06,508
like enough individuals have gotten involved to to kind of help the gym get
1342
01:30:06,508 --> 01:30:12,168
to where it is and so i can't i can't say that That's, that's definitely not all me,
1343
01:30:12,328 --> 01:30:16,388
you know, just having extra sets of eyes changes the way that the kids in the
1344
01:30:16,388 --> 01:30:19,928
room act, you know, like seeing, knowing there's other adults around changes
1345
01:30:19,928 --> 01:30:23,948
the way it act, they act, you know, like Jordan, Jordan being there on a regular
1346
01:30:23,948 --> 01:30:25,028
basis to help with the kids.
1347
01:30:25,068 --> 01:30:27,808
He's, he's there almost every, every single day, Monday through Friday,
1348
01:30:27,928 --> 01:30:34,168
just him being there, the kids knowing he's around, just having the adult there, you know.
1349
01:30:35,779 --> 01:30:38,599
To behave differently you know and all that makes a
1350
01:30:38,599 --> 01:30:41,359
difference so that kind of goes back to saying like the
1351
01:30:41,359 --> 01:30:44,399
parents are involved a lot more here that i've
1352
01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:47,119
noticed and that's not to say anything about people in homo i think it's just
1353
01:30:47,119 --> 01:30:50,079
different different for whatever reason
1354
01:30:50,079 --> 01:30:53,379
but they they really are like they involve
1355
01:30:53,379 --> 01:30:57,119
themselves far more you know it's interesting
1356
01:30:57,119 --> 01:31:00,359
and that all plays a role with the kids you know like shane
1357
01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:03,019
you jump in every once in a while with the kids too he comes in
1358
01:31:03,019 --> 01:31:06,539
the back and gets dressed and he's on a mat with his belt and
1359
01:31:06,539 --> 01:31:09,439
just having those those parents do that it's huge
1360
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,139
man and and it shows how much they
1361
01:31:12,139 --> 01:31:15,099
actually care about the kids you know and i think it's awesome like
1362
01:31:15,099 --> 01:31:18,919
you know that's the most important important asset
1363
01:31:18,919 --> 01:31:22,819
we have is kids our
1364
01:31:22,819 --> 01:31:25,619
youth like i thought about this a long time ago
1365
01:31:25,619 --> 01:31:28,679
even when i first opened the gym said i
1366
01:31:28,679 --> 01:31:31,679
wanted to do something that was going to be really really good and i
1367
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:34,519
also knew that the kids are
1368
01:31:34,519 --> 01:31:41,319
who takes care of you later so like if i can have a martial arts facility that
1369
01:31:41,319 --> 01:31:49,919
helps kids develop and turns them into really successful individuals like those
1370
01:31:49,919 --> 01:31:53,379
successful individuals later on in life who are are they going to become and
1371
01:31:53,379 --> 01:31:54,139
what are they going to do?
1372
01:31:54,699 --> 01:32:02,679
And if you show up as a 60 year old and you need a, I don't know,
1373
01:32:02,699 --> 01:32:04,679
a hip replacement or whatever, right?
1374
01:32:04,759 --> 01:32:11,219
Like I would much rather the kid that I trained when he was a teenager,
1375
01:32:11,379 --> 01:32:14,779
be the one working on me than some person that I've never met before in my life.
1376
01:32:15,019 --> 01:32:17,719
Cause like, you'll, you'll know who that kid is. You'll know who they are.
1377
01:32:18,139 --> 01:32:19,919
They're going to know who you are and they're going to actually,
1378
01:32:19,979 --> 01:32:22,199
you have played a role in their life where they're going to say,
1379
01:32:22,279 --> 01:32:24,519
no, I want to make sure he's taken care of.
1380
01:32:26,179 --> 01:32:29,259
And like, who's to say like, who, what are kids going to become?
1381
01:32:29,619 --> 01:32:32,979
You know, like, I don't know who all the kids are going to become,
1382
01:32:33,059 --> 01:32:36,319
but they're, they're going to be somebody and whoever they are,
1383
01:32:36,419 --> 01:32:40,139
you just hope that they become valuable people in the future for,
1384
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:44,379
you know, the old people and that they pass that down on the kids as well.
1385
01:32:46,366 --> 01:32:52,006
I think that's a big, a big important thing that I really do take like a lot
1386
01:32:52,006 --> 01:32:58,666
of, a lot of care in is with the kids like that, you know, cause yeah,
1387
01:32:58,786 --> 01:33:00,966
I mean, we're going to need them, you know.
1388
01:33:01,266 --> 01:33:05,926
I mean, it's pretty cool to think about is, you know, 20 years from now,
1389
01:33:05,986 --> 01:33:12,646
30 years from now, there's going to be a group of 40 year olds around Thibodeau,
1390
01:33:12,646 --> 01:33:14,686
Houma, wherever else else in the world.
1391
01:33:15,206 --> 01:33:18,206
And they're all going to have that one thing that they did.
1392
01:33:18,266 --> 01:33:20,906
They're all going to have that thing that even if it was for,
1393
01:33:20,966 --> 01:33:27,566
you know, from 10 to 15 and or whatever, 10 to 20, and they're all going to have that thing.
1394
01:33:27,706 --> 01:33:32,486
They're all going to be able to have the stories of training that next generation
1395
01:33:32,486 --> 01:33:35,146
and, and the things they learned.
1396
01:33:35,186 --> 01:33:44,466
And man, if they don't, If they don't attribute some of their success and their,
1397
01:33:44,586 --> 01:33:53,086
whatever you want to call it, manlyhood to what happened in that gym, I'd be surprised.
1398
01:33:53,366 --> 01:33:55,546
I'd be really, really, really surprised.
1399
01:33:55,926 --> 01:33:59,966
I think we're seeing that already. This is something that I know that we have
1400
01:33:59,966 --> 01:34:04,546
now for sure. Or what's been interesting to see is that we've had a group of
1401
01:34:04,546 --> 01:34:10,166
kids now that have gotten to an age that started early and they've graduated high school.
1402
01:34:10,506 --> 01:34:12,986
And so this is something that I've been waiting for, you know,
1403
01:34:12,986 --> 01:34:17,766
for sure for the past 13 years, even before the next generation was open.
1404
01:34:18,566 --> 01:34:23,546
So this year we had three kids that graduated that started training very early.
1405
01:34:23,626 --> 01:34:27,846
So Ty, Thomas and Paul. Right.
1406
01:34:28,206 --> 01:34:33,826
So Ty, Thomas and Paul all started, you know, by age 10. Ty started when he
1407
01:34:33,826 --> 01:34:35,646
was five. I think Thomas started at five.
1408
01:34:35,986 --> 01:34:40,446
And then Paul started when he was like, I think Paul was about 10 or 11 years old.
1409
01:34:42,234 --> 01:34:45,174
Stayed consistent you know some more
1410
01:34:45,174 --> 01:34:47,894
than others like thomas has been hit or miss but he still comes in
1411
01:34:47,894 --> 01:34:50,714
the gym he still trains he still trains here and there ty has been
1412
01:34:50,714 --> 01:34:54,434
very consistent mostly because he didn't have a choice and
1413
01:34:54,434 --> 01:35:00,534
then paul has been consistent without having to be told like hey go train right
1414
01:35:00,534 --> 01:35:07,514
it's something that kind of kept him interested and to see how those those young
1415
01:35:07,514 --> 01:35:12,274
young men handle themselves next to their peers, I find it really, really interesting.
1416
01:35:13,274 --> 01:35:18,614
You know, like it's just, they have a different thing about them that a lot
1417
01:35:18,614 --> 01:35:21,634
of kids their age don't. And I think it is all from training.
1418
01:35:21,974 --> 01:35:25,474
You know, it's, it's, it's from, it's from, you know, from Ty being on the mat
1419
01:35:25,474 --> 01:35:31,914
when he's 14 talking trash and getting his butt kicked and knowing that he got
1420
01:35:31,914 --> 01:35:35,514
his butt kicked and then realizing that, yeah,
1421
01:35:35,574 --> 01:35:38,834
he's probably going to do it again and he's gonna get his butt kick again but
1422
01:35:38,834 --> 01:35:41,194
it got to the point where he doesn't care.
1423
01:35:41,874 --> 01:35:44,934
And it and it develops a certain amount of respect with
1424
01:35:44,934 --> 01:35:47,894
the older guys that most kids that
1425
01:35:47,894 --> 01:35:52,054
age aren't gonna get because they're not willing to put themselves in that and
1426
01:35:52,054 --> 01:35:56,574
and deal with it you know same thing with paul you know paul's paul's tough
1427
01:35:56,574 --> 01:36:02,834
man and you know he's he he gets a i bet you he gets a lot more respect in the
1428
01:36:02,834 --> 01:36:05,094
gym than maybe he did even from other kids in high school,
1429
01:36:05,574 --> 01:36:08,854
You know, so the kids that he went to high school with probably don't respect
1430
01:36:08,854 --> 01:36:11,254
them the same as the guys that are in their thirties that train with them a
1431
01:36:11,254 --> 01:36:15,374
day in and day out, you know, and, and shame on the kids in high school for not getting that.
1432
01:36:15,434 --> 01:36:18,354
But it's just the respect level is different.
1433
01:36:18,434 --> 01:36:22,994
I think with, with guys that are young men like them that, that have come up
1434
01:36:22,994 --> 01:36:28,454
around other, other men, they, they typically don't have teenagers mixing in
1435
01:36:28,454 --> 01:36:32,094
with like grown adults that early for whatever reasons.
1436
01:36:32,094 --> 01:36:34,014
And it's like, you just don't want to be around teenagers, you know,
1437
01:36:34,014 --> 01:36:38,054
but in, in training, like it, it, it has to happen at some point.
1438
01:36:38,094 --> 01:36:41,374
And so I think they put up, pick up some of those little bits of knowledge that
1439
01:36:41,374 --> 01:36:44,794
they hear from guys just talking or training or whatever,
1440
01:36:44,934 --> 01:36:48,474
you know, and then something that's really cool to see is when you have a kid
1441
01:36:48,474 --> 01:36:52,694
that's 15, 16 years old and they got a guy that walks in, that's 30 something
1442
01:36:52,694 --> 01:36:54,874
and they can smoke that guy.
1443
01:36:55,574 --> 01:36:58,414
And then you watch them not do it. That is amazing.
1444
01:36:58,594 --> 01:37:02,834
That's pretty cool to see. Yeah. No, no other place in the world would that
1445
01:37:02,834 --> 01:37:06,134
happen. And they'll roll with them and give them a, give them a tough time or whatever.
1446
01:37:06,254 --> 01:37:09,194
And then give them a five, give them a hug after. And then like,
1447
01:37:09,254 --> 01:37:11,614
it's like, they don't have to prove that they can.
1448
01:37:12,274 --> 01:37:15,134
And so that's a certain level of on the mat maturity, you know,
1449
01:37:15,154 --> 01:37:18,894
that, that they, they realize like they, they know they can and they don't.
1450
01:37:18,894 --> 01:37:24,334
And you know, when, when they do know that it means that they realize that and other things as well.
1451
01:37:24,414 --> 01:37:29,134
So it's easier for them not to feel like they got to prove that they're good
1452
01:37:29,134 --> 01:37:31,614
at something because they're already good enough at something that they don't
1453
01:37:31,614 --> 01:37:32,454
have to prove it anymore. more.
1454
01:37:32,474 --> 01:37:36,094
So I think it makes it easier for them to learn certain things later on in life.
1455
01:37:36,154 --> 01:37:39,634
You know, now I think certain, certain individuals might take a little longer
1456
01:37:39,634 --> 01:37:41,854
to figure that out, even if they do train, you know, but.
1457
01:37:43,036 --> 01:37:45,876
Got to be good at something before you can be okay
1458
01:37:45,876 --> 01:37:48,736
with being bad at something and i think that's what they
1459
01:37:48,736 --> 01:37:51,436
they have that a lot of kids their
1460
01:37:51,436 --> 01:37:55,396
age maybe don't and and i think it changes the way that they see respect you
1461
01:37:55,396 --> 01:37:59,836
know it's a lot easier to to admit that you suck at doing x y and z if you know
1462
01:37:59,836 --> 01:38:02,816
you're really good at something because you know you can be good at something
1463
01:38:02,816 --> 01:38:06,716
versus individuals that aren't really good at anything that have to prove that
1464
01:38:06,716 --> 01:38:09,216
they're trying to be or or whatever, you know?
1465
01:38:09,516 --> 01:38:12,816
And I think they realized that early, you know, you know, it was funny.
1466
01:38:12,856 --> 01:38:16,376
Like, you know, Ty did that little match with over the weekend.
1467
01:38:16,396 --> 01:38:23,116
And my aunt, she said, well, how old is the guys that he was competing against?
1468
01:38:23,816 --> 01:38:27,956
It's like, I mean, they're in their thirties, you know, and he's 18.
1469
01:38:28,616 --> 01:38:34,916
She's like, how? It's like, it's like, I mean, you know, like he got in there, they did the thing.
1470
01:38:34,996 --> 01:38:40,736
And afterwards they're in the back, just, chatting and hanging out like, like dudes.
1471
01:38:41,276 --> 01:38:45,196
And just from seeing them, if you didn't know age and you just heard them talking
1472
01:38:45,196 --> 01:38:47,696
to one another, you'd never know that was that big of a difference.
1473
01:38:47,816 --> 01:38:51,076
Like, like one was graduating high school and the other one was,
1474
01:38:51,136 --> 01:38:55,716
you know, like five, you would, you would never know that age gap was there.
1475
01:38:56,256 --> 01:38:59,776
That age gap is something interesting that maybe just mentioned too.
1476
01:38:59,876 --> 01:39:03,416
So there's not like a lot of places you do that, right?
1477
01:39:03,456 --> 01:39:06,936
Like in sports, in high school and stuff you
1478
01:39:06,936 --> 01:39:09,776
know you're always around your your peer group and of course the
1479
01:39:09,776 --> 01:39:13,436
coaches are older but they're they're separate they're they're apart
1480
01:39:13,436 --> 01:39:19,096
aloof and so like shane and i got that just from working at the market a lot
1481
01:39:19,096 --> 01:39:24,496
as kids you know the the workers were were older and and they were mentors for
1482
01:39:24,496 --> 01:39:30,376
us and and that that's a really cool uh dynamic that at some point you kind of have to,
1483
01:39:30,376 --> 01:39:34,256
you don't want your first experience of that to be after high school,
1484
01:39:34,296 --> 01:39:36,596
whenever you get a job for the first time.
1485
01:39:36,696 --> 01:39:39,756
And so jujitsu is another cool place that that can happen.
1486
01:39:39,916 --> 01:39:44,576
Like when, when I started training, I was the only kid in a room full of,
1487
01:39:44,596 --> 01:39:50,896
you know, 30 year old cops, firefighters, military guys, all those guys back
1488
01:39:50,896 --> 01:39:52,136
then were, were very tough.
1489
01:39:52,136 --> 01:39:57,776
And so it's cool to be in the room as a, you know, as a young adult to,
1490
01:39:57,796 --> 01:40:02,396
to see how, you know, how you adult. So, yeah.
1491
01:40:03,056 --> 01:40:06,536
Yeah. And that's, that's something that I've, you know, when,
1492
01:40:06,656 --> 01:40:10,296
when you ask like having Ty work at the market and I said, I just wanted him
1493
01:40:10,296 --> 01:40:11,076
to be around good people.
1494
01:40:11,716 --> 01:40:14,436
It's like when I was his age I
1495
01:40:14,436 --> 01:40:18,256
was never good enough at anything to be okay with being bad at anything and
1496
01:40:18,256 --> 01:40:22,076
that's kind of where why I say that right so like when I was working in the
1497
01:40:22,076 --> 01:40:27,716
all-field it's like anybody told me anything negative now granted they could
1498
01:40:27,716 --> 01:40:30,796
have had a much better choice of words you know when you work in an all-field
1499
01:40:30,796 --> 01:40:34,416
it's a lot of a lot of vulgarity that everybody throws at one another but,
1500
01:40:36,545 --> 01:40:41,025
You felt like everybody was just crapping on you. At least I did because I didn't
1501
01:40:41,025 --> 01:40:44,325
know how to do this, this, or this, right? Because they wouldn't take the time to teach you.
1502
01:40:44,565 --> 01:40:48,885
It's just you would either figure it out or they would bust your balls and,
1503
01:40:48,885 --> 01:40:52,085
you know, say certain things until you tried to figure it out.
1504
01:40:52,625 --> 01:40:57,525
And so that creates a lot of conflict, you know, when you don't have one thing
1505
01:40:57,525 --> 01:41:00,805
that you know you can do really, really well and you're just not good at anything. thing.
1506
01:41:01,845 --> 01:41:06,645
And those boys know, you know, like they know that they'll be good.
1507
01:41:06,705 --> 01:41:10,765
And, you know, you mentioning being around those older guys,
1508
01:41:10,925 --> 01:41:14,025
like it gives you that same opportunity when you were younger to be able to
1509
01:41:14,025 --> 01:41:14,925
do a lot of that same stuff.
1510
01:41:15,265 --> 01:41:19,065
So at least you knew how to be around a group of men by yourself,
1511
01:41:19,225 --> 01:41:24,145
you know, earlier than most, I would say, because like, I'm sure your dad wasn't
1512
01:41:24,145 --> 01:41:26,705
sitting through classes with you, you know, day in and day out and,
1513
01:41:26,745 --> 01:41:30,045
you know, walking you by your hand getting you to class so it's
1514
01:41:30,045 --> 01:41:33,505
something you took upon yourself to put yourself in that arena and you know
1515
01:41:33,505 --> 01:41:36,165
there's a lot of benefits from that man and i think that's part of
1516
01:41:36,165 --> 01:41:38,865
the reason why you you're you're able to handle this place like
1517
01:41:38,865 --> 01:41:42,345
you do you know it's it definitely
1518
01:41:42,345 --> 01:41:45,625
does something different when when that's the case you know and i'm sure it's
1519
01:41:45,625 --> 01:41:50,585
the same thing like with the marine corps right like you having to be in in
1520
01:41:50,585 --> 01:41:57,465
in a group of men where you knew like Like these guys have been to war and whether
1521
01:41:57,465 --> 01:42:00,305
or not they're just a couple of years older than you or 30 years older than you,
1522
01:42:00,365 --> 01:42:02,665
like it's like knowing,
1523
01:42:02,865 --> 01:42:08,325
all right, I need to hear what that guy has to say and then listen to it and
1524
01:42:08,325 --> 01:42:12,725
really take it into consideration that they're coming from a place that they
1525
01:42:12,725 --> 01:42:17,925
have experience and you can bypass a whole lot of mistakes by listening to what
1526
01:42:17,925 --> 01:42:19,225
that individual is talking about.
1527
01:42:19,225 --> 01:42:25,585
You know, it's, it's difficult to, to know how to spot that or see it if you
1528
01:42:25,585 --> 01:42:30,925
don't have examples of it and you get examples about being around experienced men,
1529
01:42:31,125 --> 01:42:38,245
not, not just, you know, 30 year old dudes, you know, like men that have some experience and.
1530
01:42:40,353 --> 01:42:45,073
Definitely changes the way a young man or woman shapes their reality as they get older.
1531
01:42:45,313 --> 01:42:53,153
I think it's important that people see it as, you know, for their kids looking
1532
01:42:53,153 --> 01:42:57,073
forward, you know, as another form of education, schooling.
1533
01:42:57,313 --> 01:43:03,173
Like I don't see it as, as much of a sport or an extracurricular or a hobby
1534
01:43:03,173 --> 01:43:07,333
like I used to, you know, now I see it as it's a life skill.
1535
01:43:07,513 --> 01:43:10,953
And it's just like, I think I shared it with you the other day,
1536
01:43:11,693 --> 01:43:14,473
little write up on, you know, comparing it to swimming lessons.
1537
01:43:14,693 --> 01:43:18,613
Like everyone's got their, you know, the kids five years old,
1538
01:43:18,653 --> 01:43:21,113
they know it's important for the kid to learn how to swim.
1539
01:43:21,473 --> 01:43:26,193
You know, it's something they all go through, but they look at martial arts
1540
01:43:26,193 --> 01:43:33,973
as an optional, an optional thing, you know, and maybe there's other things in place, other sports,
1541
01:43:34,153 --> 01:43:41,453
other, maybe parenting styles to fill in those gaps that jujitsu would or a martial art would,
1542
01:43:41,953 --> 01:43:45,333
but not for most people, you know, for most people, they'll,
1543
01:43:45,333 --> 01:43:47,393
they're just letting their kid.
1544
01:43:48,133 --> 01:43:51,773
You know, make their own choices way too early.
1545
01:43:51,873 --> 01:43:57,033
Like you don't let your kid decide if they're going to go to school or not. No. You know, why?
1546
01:43:57,273 --> 01:44:01,073
Because you think education is important. You know, you're going to let them
1547
01:44:01,073 --> 01:44:06,973
decide if their if their life is important or their humility is important.
1548
01:44:07,133 --> 01:44:11,753
Like if you want them to have respect when they're 20, if you want them to work
1549
01:44:11,753 --> 01:44:16,573
hard, you know, and and, you know, take control of their own success.
1550
01:44:17,253 --> 01:44:21,173
I want all those things for my kid. And I know my kid's not smart enough to
1551
01:44:21,173 --> 01:44:23,393
decide that on her own just yet.
1552
01:44:23,453 --> 01:44:26,673
So I'm going to I make the decision for her. And I say, those are important
1553
01:44:26,673 --> 01:44:29,973
things. things, here's where you're, here's where you're going to learn it.
1554
01:44:29,993 --> 01:44:33,413
Just same, same thing I do with school, you know, you're going to school,
1555
01:44:33,433 --> 01:44:34,893
here's, here's where you're going to go.
1556
01:44:35,333 --> 01:44:38,133
It's the same thing. Yeah. And the reason why you have that is because you got
1557
01:44:38,133 --> 01:44:39,893
30 something years on this planet,
1558
01:44:40,433 --> 01:44:45,833
and your daughter's got what, six, you know, like she can't understand what
1559
01:44:45,833 --> 01:44:50,813
five plus times of her life is supposed to look like, you know, and,
1560
01:44:50,913 --> 01:44:55,753
and that happens a lot is we end up, well, you know, little Johnny doesn't want to do this.
1561
01:44:55,853 --> 01:44:58,333
So we'd rather him make his own choices.
1562
01:44:58,453 --> 01:45:03,013
It's like, I get it. You don't want to upset your kid, but it's way easier to
1563
01:45:03,013 --> 01:45:07,273
deal with a five or a six-year-old that's upset than it is a 30-year-old that's
1564
01:45:07,273 --> 01:45:11,353
upset, you know, like, cause none of those problems go away.
1565
01:45:11,553 --> 01:45:14,813
Like eventually they got to do stuff they don't want to do.
1566
01:45:15,373 --> 01:45:17,973
Like, just make sure you get them to do the right things that they don't want
1567
01:45:17,973 --> 01:45:20,453
to do. You know, it's like, like, Hey, hey, eat good food.
1568
01:45:21,193 --> 01:45:24,893
Like, you're either gonna pay for that now, or you're gonna have an eight year
1569
01:45:24,893 --> 01:45:25,973
old that weighs 200 pounds.
1570
01:45:27,993 --> 01:45:31,193
Is not supposed to weigh that, you know, and, and it happens and I'm not saying
1571
01:45:31,193 --> 01:45:34,693
anything bad about the kids, but it's, it's those things that when you look
1572
01:45:34,693 --> 01:45:38,953
at it, it's like, it's a bunch of small decisions that add up to those, those issues,
1573
01:45:39,033 --> 01:45:42,373
you know, and now you say an eight year old, that's 200 pounds.
1574
01:45:42,433 --> 01:45:44,093
Well, what's his heart going to look like when he's 30?
1575
01:45:44,573 --> 01:45:48,313
You know, that thing's been working real hard for 22 years at that point.
1576
01:45:48,333 --> 01:45:53,573
And, you know, you could either not let them have the sugary foods that they
1577
01:45:53,573 --> 01:45:58,393
want when they're a child, because they get the, the, the chemical reactions
1578
01:45:58,393 --> 01:46:01,053
and the addiction to sugar or whatever else it might be,
1579
01:46:01,133 --> 01:46:06,133
you know, and like, hopefully you don't lose your kid early in life because
1580
01:46:06,133 --> 01:46:08,533
of, because of those, those bad choices, you know?
1581
01:46:08,873 --> 01:46:11,813
And, and I don't think we think about that enough, you know,
1582
01:46:11,813 --> 01:46:17,293
like we were worried about the emotional state now versus what it's going to look like in 20 years,
1583
01:46:17,393 --> 01:46:20,993
you know, and, and make those good decisions now so that you can have a better,
1584
01:46:20,993 --> 01:46:23,993
a better life and and and see your
1585
01:46:23,993 --> 01:46:26,773
kid get happy you know and and not have
1586
01:46:26,773 --> 01:46:29,573
to worry about him you know like look i don't worry about
1587
01:46:29,573 --> 01:46:35,213
ty when he leaves the house naomi still does but like that's a mom right like
1588
01:46:35,213 --> 01:46:41,133
if ty's out i know if i text him or i call him he's gonna answer and he's gonna
1589
01:46:41,133 --> 01:46:46,293
be okay like i'm not worried about him going you know do like i said not some
1590
01:46:46,293 --> 01:46:48,093
stupid things he's He's going to do some dumb stuff,
1591
01:46:48,173 --> 01:46:50,993
but nothing that's probably going to get him killed or hooked on drugs.
1592
01:46:52,073 --> 01:46:55,993
So I generally just think he's going to be okay. You know, like if he's pulled
1593
01:46:55,993 --> 01:46:59,153
over on the side of the road by a cop, he probably deserves to get pulled over.
1594
01:46:59,253 --> 01:47:01,873
But he's not going to run from the police.
1595
01:47:02,013 --> 01:47:05,533
You know, he's not going to run from cops and get himself, you know,
1596
01:47:05,533 --> 01:47:06,313
at gunpoint eventually.
1597
01:47:06,613 --> 01:47:08,773
Like it's a bad decision, you know.
1598
01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:16,250
So knowing those things, it's like, try to make good habits that your kids make
1599
01:47:16,250 --> 01:47:18,990
good decisions that you're not worried about them when they leave the house,
1600
01:47:19,130 --> 01:47:21,890
you know, because that worry will drive you crazy.
1601
01:47:21,970 --> 01:47:26,350
And that'll make you age real fast too, you know, and, and I think just small
1602
01:47:26,350 --> 01:47:31,070
decisions day in and day out or what would make or break those,
1603
01:47:31,150 --> 01:47:36,790
those scenarios and making your kid do things they don't want to do as part of it.
1604
01:47:37,070 --> 01:47:39,730
Like, otherwise they would just play video games all day.
1605
01:47:40,410 --> 01:47:45,470
Yeah. And eat crappy food. You end up with a mess of chips around a desk and
1606
01:47:45,470 --> 01:47:49,050
a computer screen in front of them with a controller in their hand and they never get up.
1607
01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:54,570
Like they would never get up. I like what Shane said, too, about the life skills thing.
1608
01:47:54,710 --> 01:47:58,690
You know, as a kid, I have kids that are in elementary school and stuff,
1609
01:47:58,770 --> 01:48:03,290
and you hear so much these days about bullying, and I think a lot of that comes
1610
01:48:03,290 --> 01:48:05,150
from a lack of confidence in kids.
1611
01:48:06,150 --> 01:48:11,310
And there's no better confidence than the confidence jiu-jitsu gives you.
1612
01:48:12,370 --> 01:48:13,750
So, number one, life skill.
1613
01:48:15,050 --> 01:48:18,450
I know you have the I-wills. You have the kids.
1614
01:48:18,450 --> 01:48:24,870
So before every class they line up you You ask the whole class who knows the
1615
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:28,990
I wills Every one of them raises their hand and then you select,
1616
01:48:30,050 --> 01:48:36,330
Somehow you make a selection somehow on who not who you think knows it I I've
1617
01:48:36,330 --> 01:48:40,610
been watching you do it and you're strategic on it and I watch you call out
1618
01:48:40,610 --> 01:48:42,370
kids that are you know you in.
1619
01:48:44,180 --> 01:48:48,140
Pushing them like you know they're uncomfortable and you're
1620
01:48:48,140 --> 01:48:51,100
you're doing all this stuff very strategically and behind
1621
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:54,220
the scenes that even the parents watching they don't understand what's
1622
01:48:54,220 --> 01:48:57,200
happening but it's very it's very different than
1623
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:02,800
what you see happening on a ball field you know it's it's way deeper than that
1624
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:08,240
and you you're tailoring your your leadership styles and your and your coaching
1625
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:13,140
and your instruction based on the individual kid and what you know they need
1626
01:49:13,140 --> 01:49:15,520
And what you know they don't need.
1627
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:20,680
Like I heard you, you know, speaking about one of the kids, you know, with this kid,
1628
01:49:20,820 --> 01:49:23,980
you don't need to tell him good job after everything he does,
1629
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:29,680
even if it's awesome, because you know that he's got very involved parents and
1630
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:34,160
he hears praise from his parents on a daily basis.
1631
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:41,520
So you make the decision consciously that for that kid, your role doesn't need to be that.
1632
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,840
And you, you actually actively remove yourself from that role.
1633
01:49:44,900 --> 01:49:49,680
Like, yeah, I'm sure time to time you give them a good job, but part of this
1634
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:55,100
kid's lesson he's learning in his place is that you don't always get a good job.
1635
01:49:55,180 --> 01:49:59,640
Like learn to do something awesome. Try your best and no one's going to say nothing.
1636
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,380
And you need to be fine with it. Right. And you need to do it anyway.
1637
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,840
I thought that was very profound.
1638
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:11,720
And I don't know where you learned this stuff, but you developed it along the way.
1639
01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:16,320
But so back to the I wills, what are they? How did you come up with that? And what are they?
1640
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:21,180
So I don't remember exactly what had me come up with it.
1641
01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:23,920
I just remember thinking like, okay,
1642
01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:28,360
I needed to have something that would reinforce belief in their self.
1643
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:35,220
So i started writing stuff down like okay what do kids need to be able to do
1644
01:50:35,220 --> 01:50:40,820
right and so they're in an order right so it's i will work hard right like kids
1645
01:50:40,820 --> 01:50:44,760
just need to know how to work hard right i think that's if they just do that
1646
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,060
and nothing else they'll at least be able to,
1647
01:50:48,940 --> 01:50:55,360
provide themselves with some sort of decency as they get older right you take
1648
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,920
a kid that's not ever gonna be academically smart, or maybe they just not high
1649
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:02,380
on the IQ scale, if they just show up to work every single day,
1650
01:51:02,860 --> 01:51:04,860
like they'll keep a job, right?
1651
01:51:04,940 --> 01:51:08,600
Whether or not they do right or wrong with their money, but if they just willing
1652
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,480
to work hard, they could spend every dollar they make, but they're willing to
1653
01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:14,020
work hard to make more money. They'll probably be okay.
1654
01:51:16,210 --> 01:51:19,310
That was the first one. And then it's like, okay, I will work hard.
1655
01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:22,130
Well, what else do they need to do if they work hard? Well, they need to focus.
1656
01:51:22,190 --> 01:51:24,430
They need to focus while they work hard. Right.
1657
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:28,450
And so I will work hard. I will focus. I will learn. That's the next one.
1658
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:31,850
So then it started morphing into like the whole class setting.
1659
01:51:31,970 --> 01:51:35,470
Like you show up, you work hard, you focus, and you're going to learn.
1660
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:39,190
And then during that process, you're going to become mentally tough
1661
01:51:39,290 --> 01:51:42,910
and then improve every day so i
1662
01:51:42,910 --> 01:51:45,730
started when i was writing it's like okay
1663
01:51:45,730 --> 01:51:48,630
i will work hard i will focus i will
1664
01:51:48,630 --> 01:51:53,090
learn i'll become mentally tough i'll improve every day and i kept saying it
1665
01:51:53,090 --> 01:51:56,090
over and over again i'm like okay i think i think that's something they can
1666
01:51:56,090 --> 01:52:02,350
remember and i think it's going to reinforce their belief in themselves that
1667
01:52:02,350 --> 01:52:07,350
they can accomplish something If they believe that for sure in their head.
1668
01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:11,990
And so getting them to say it over and over again, I just wanted to reinforce
1669
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:14,090
it every single time they come to the gym.
1670
01:52:14,210 --> 01:52:18,090
Like I want them to be able to say it. And that's why they all say it after
1671
01:52:18,090 --> 01:52:20,290
the other kid. It's not just one kid getting up there and saying it.
1672
01:52:21,410 --> 01:52:24,710
So the reason why I pick certain kids on certain days, it's like,
1673
01:52:24,810 --> 01:52:27,710
well, I want to see who's confident enough to actually raise their hand.
1674
01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:30,890
Now, sometimes the kids that raise their hand are just raising their hand because
1675
01:52:30,890 --> 01:52:33,170
they want to raise their hand. And I know they don't know it.
1676
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:37,730
And so it's like, oh yeah, you, you make straight A's in school.
1677
01:52:38,010 --> 01:52:39,130
Are you talking about one of my kids?
1678
01:52:40,050 --> 01:52:46,770
Negative. No, but sometimes it was at one point, but like, like her in general, right?
1679
01:52:46,830 --> 01:52:50,890
Like I wouldn't want her to not get it right too many times because I would
1680
01:52:50,890 --> 01:52:51,930
still want her to raise her hand.
1681
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:58,210
But like, okay. So like the kid that gets praised at home all the time that
1682
01:52:58,210 --> 01:53:01,610
raises his hand and I know he doesn't know it. I'm definitely going to pick that kid sometimes.
1683
01:53:01,870 --> 01:53:04,670
You want, you're allowing him to fail. And then when it fails,
1684
01:53:04,710 --> 01:53:07,050
I'm going to say, oh, you didn't really know it, did you? Well,
1685
01:53:07,150 --> 01:53:07,950
why'd you raise your hand?
1686
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:12,370
Oh, it's embarrassing. Oh yeah. Yeah. It should be embarrassing because you
1687
01:53:12,370 --> 01:53:15,290
don't know everything just because you hear good job at home.
1688
01:53:15,390 --> 01:53:19,150
Doesn't mean you know everything about everything. Like that'll get them in
1689
01:53:19,150 --> 01:53:22,730
trouble later on in life. Like imagine the kid that like shows up to the market.
1690
01:53:23,410 --> 01:53:27,850
That's 19, 20 years old that you're trying to teach them something like, oh, I know how to do that.
1691
01:53:28,930 --> 01:53:32,390
Like, and that's your response to everything. Right.
1692
01:53:32,490 --> 01:53:36,690
Like, like you're like, okay, but still let me show you anyway,
1693
01:53:36,830 --> 01:53:41,270
because even if you do know, like, just, just go through this,
1694
01:53:41,390 --> 01:53:46,510
like see this first and then, then go and, you know, do what you're going to do maybe. Right.
1695
01:53:48,529 --> 01:53:51,389
Know like if they have that attitude it's like crap like you
1696
01:53:51,389 --> 01:53:54,249
what do i have to work with now do i need to break through all
1697
01:53:54,249 --> 01:53:57,589
of that before i can actually get them to understand what we're trying to do so
1698
01:53:57,589 --> 01:54:03,289
like if the kid learns that at eight or seven or nine like they're gonna benefit
1699
01:54:03,289 --> 01:54:09,689
way better than if they learn it at 25 so like yeah sure i'm gonna embarrass
1700
01:54:09,689 --> 01:54:12,649
them and i'm gonna make them upset and i'm not gonna leave them like that forever
1701
01:54:12,649 --> 01:54:16,149
and here and there i'm gonna take that kid I'm going to tell them something good,
1702
01:54:16,189 --> 01:54:20,009
but I'm probably not going to tell them good all the time until they start actually
1703
01:54:20,009 --> 01:54:24,469
like showing that behavior on a regular basis. Like, like they're starting to get it.
1704
01:54:24,669 --> 01:54:28,709
And some of the hardest ones to get through like that are the kids that they
1705
01:54:28,709 --> 01:54:31,909
get used to getting all the awards at school.
1706
01:54:32,049 --> 01:54:34,089
They get told they're smart all the time.
1707
01:54:34,549 --> 01:54:39,689
Like it's awesome for the kid to hear some of that, but maybe they don't get
1708
01:54:39,689 --> 01:54:41,829
enough negativity to offset all
1709
01:54:41,829 --> 01:54:44,889
the positive stuff that they just think everything's great all the time.
1710
01:54:45,289 --> 01:54:49,009
And like a lot of times that ends up being the kids that'll try to correct the
1711
01:54:49,009 --> 01:54:53,369
adults, you know, when they shouldn't, you know, or, or it comes off as disrespectful
1712
01:54:53,369 --> 01:54:54,729
as the way they talk to people.
1713
01:54:55,509 --> 01:54:59,669
So I think that plays a big role and then take the other side of it where you
1714
01:54:59,669 --> 01:55:03,409
have a kid that that's not confident, like that kid that's not confident.
1715
01:55:03,949 --> 01:55:05,989
I'm probably only going to call
1716
01:55:05,989 --> 01:55:09,749
that kid when they have the balls to raise their hand, to get up there.
1717
01:55:10,209 --> 01:55:14,729
And then if they don't get it, I'm probably not going to just send them back.
1718
01:55:15,349 --> 01:55:19,389
Feeling like they, they couldn't do it. Like, I'm probably going to take that kid.
1719
01:55:19,909 --> 01:55:24,289
And when they can't, when they can't like remember which one,
1720
01:55:24,389 --> 01:55:26,709
I'll give them a hint to see if they can remember it.
1721
01:55:26,749 --> 01:55:31,049
And then if it's somebody that I know, like, no, he does not have the confidence,
1722
01:55:31,129 --> 01:55:33,149
but he, he did have the confidence to get up there.
1723
01:55:33,349 --> 01:55:36,829
Like I'm going to give them the answer and then let them say it.
1724
01:55:37,229 --> 01:55:40,809
And then two or three classes later, I might call that same kid up and then
1725
01:55:40,809 --> 01:55:42,069
they might get them all right.
1726
01:55:42,109 --> 01:55:46,949
And they might not, but I'll start getting them to speak even louder,
1727
01:55:47,069 --> 01:55:49,709
to say it louder. So they get like develop a voice.
1728
01:55:50,129 --> 01:55:53,709
And then eventually you do that for two or three months, four months.
1729
01:55:54,069 --> 01:55:59,829
And all of a sudden it's like the kids got so much more confidence because now he knows he can do that.
1730
01:56:00,309 --> 01:56:05,589
And then if they learn that at four or five, it totally changes the way the
1731
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:08,349
kid's going to approach a whole bunch of stuff in daily life, you know?
1732
01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:15,249
And like that has an immense level of value, you like like far beyond getting
1733
01:56:15,249 --> 01:56:19,809
an a on a test you know like for sure like it that that alone,
1734
01:56:20,429 --> 01:56:24,449
that confidence developed at four that real confidence and then also knowing what it was like.
1735
01:56:25,209 --> 01:56:29,149
In that short amount of time for that kid to be not confident you know because
1736
01:56:29,149 --> 01:56:32,869
that's the other thing with kids too is like they might or might not remember
1737
01:56:32,869 --> 01:56:36,669
what it was like when they weren't confident but if they can know the difference
1738
01:56:36,669 --> 01:56:39,609
in that amount of time and they can kind of still to hold onto that,
1739
01:56:39,689 --> 01:56:42,449
like they, they know they can do things.
1740
01:56:43,709 --> 01:56:46,269
And you know, some kids, if they're just goofy, like.
1741
01:56:48,457 --> 01:56:51,417
Them up, if they get it right or wrong, you kind of pick on them a little bit
1742
01:56:51,417 --> 01:56:54,457
about it. They're going to laugh and they're going to like shake it off anyway, you know?
1743
01:56:54,677 --> 01:56:58,837
So like those kids, you kind of, you want them to do good, but they'll probably be okay.
1744
01:56:59,477 --> 01:57:02,717
But yeah, each, each kid's got to be dealt with differently.
1745
01:57:02,837 --> 01:57:05,577
You know, that's why like all the parenting books and all that get wrote now,
1746
01:57:05,657 --> 01:57:09,857
I don't know if they're, look, I didn't go to school, but it's,
1747
01:57:09,857 --> 01:57:15,197
it's one of those deals where I don't know if you could write a book that suits all kids.
1748
01:57:15,917 --> 01:57:19,937
It's just reinforcing behaviors that you like, I think is important.
1749
01:57:20,157 --> 01:57:23,757
You know, some, if like, you know, I remember hearing Jordan Peterson talk about this.
1750
01:57:23,837 --> 01:57:28,737
He's like, he's like, why would you let your kids ever do anything you don't like?
1751
01:57:29,637 --> 01:57:34,577
Like if you're letting them do things that you don't like, like don't,
1752
01:57:34,577 --> 01:57:37,637
don't let them do it because you don't like it. And if it's enough stuff,
1753
01:57:37,697 --> 01:57:38,657
you're not going to like your kid.
1754
01:57:39,137 --> 01:57:41,577
So like thinking about that, like when I heard him say that,
1755
01:57:41,617 --> 01:57:44,737
I'm like, okay, I don't need to know anything else, but if a kid's doing something
1756
01:57:44,737 --> 01:57:46,417
I don't like, I just try not to let them do it.
1757
01:57:48,017 --> 01:57:51,077
Yeah like i'm not smart enough to think about it the way that guy thinks about
1758
01:57:51,077 --> 01:57:58,897
it but i can i can figure that out so yeah man kids life skills man yeah it's the next,
1759
01:57:59,697 --> 01:58:05,197
next generation yeah and hopefully we end up with some that are doing that you
1760
01:58:05,197 --> 01:58:09,657
know soon you know and that's another big deal eventually like with the gym i want to be able to,
1761
01:58:10,357 --> 01:58:14,257
have it set up hopefully one day hopefully and this is the four ways off but
1762
01:58:14,257 --> 01:58:18,237
i think we could probably do it within the next five to ten years being able
1763
01:58:18,237 --> 01:58:21,397
to say like look if your kid trains from this time to this time.
1764
01:58:23,052 --> 01:58:25,992
Be an opportunity for your kid to if they
1765
01:58:25,992 --> 01:58:29,792
do these things over this time frame there could
1766
01:58:29,792 --> 01:58:32,652
be an opportunity for your kid to own their own facility
1767
01:58:32,652 --> 01:58:40,992
and have the gym be able to help make that like a reality right and and hopefully
1768
01:58:40,992 --> 01:58:45,052
be able to have kids set up to where yeah they started when they were five and
1769
01:58:45,052 --> 01:58:49,352
they kept training until they was 18 and they graduated high school so So those
1770
01:58:49,352 --> 01:58:52,292
13 years of experience that they have of doing this thing,
1771
01:58:52,372 --> 01:58:56,652
like, you know, if you put them in certain roles over that certain period of
1772
01:58:56,652 --> 01:58:59,252
time and they actually stick to it like a job when they're in school,
1773
01:58:59,372 --> 01:59:00,912
being able to set them up.
1774
01:59:00,952 --> 01:59:07,532
So when they go to college or graduate college, they can take over their own business that's there.
1775
01:59:08,292 --> 01:59:10,912
And then no longer is it like a thing where parents are like,
1776
01:59:10,972 --> 01:59:14,072
oh, I don't know if I want to spend the money to put the kid into this.
1777
01:59:14,232 --> 01:59:17,372
It's like, okay, you could either think about it as spending the money,
1778
01:59:17,412 --> 01:59:21,752
or you can just think about it as a, you know, 20 year investment where,
1779
01:59:21,892 --> 01:59:27,412
you know, the, I don't know, the, the, the $30,000 that you would spend over
1780
01:59:27,412 --> 01:59:30,572
that 20 year timeframe, your kid's going to have a business.
1781
01:59:32,052 --> 01:59:37,072
Versus spending that $30,000 to get them college debt.
1782
01:59:37,772 --> 01:59:42,032
You know, like, like, I don't, I don't, I don't know how to make that make sense
1783
01:59:42,032 --> 01:59:51,412
yet, but I think it could very well be an equivalent of a doctrine in martial arts by the age of 22.
1784
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,860
To get, it could become that. And I want to be able to see it do that.
1785
01:59:56,940 --> 01:59:59,300
And it's just figuring it out. I think I have it figured out,
1786
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:03,720
but it would take the, the individuals that can see it, you know,
1787
02:00:03,740 --> 02:00:06,000
and I think that's why it's important to have these like, like Ty,
1788
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:10,000
Paul, Thomas, that age group, be able to start taking over some of the classes
1789
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:14,300
and at least have an example set of it to where the parents could see it.
1790
02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:16,960
Like, Oh no, he that's, that's what, that's how he started. He's teaching the
1791
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:20,280
classes now, you know, like Ty right now is teaching class.
1792
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:27,340
If parents, you know, if parents my age would see, would watch Ty teach a group of 40 kids,
1793
02:00:27,580 --> 02:00:35,500
I think they would be blown away at how that 18-year-old can command that room.
1794
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,880
I mean, it is, it's impressive.
1795
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:43,240
He's very good. He's very good. He is deep.
1796
02:00:43,340 --> 02:00:48,900
You watch him play the little games with the kids and the same things you're doing, he can do.
1797
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,420
He's an 18-year-old. And he's understanding some of that stuff,
1798
02:00:51,580 --> 02:00:56,420
you know, calling out specific kids for specific reasons and not calling out
1799
02:00:56,420 --> 02:01:01,120
other kids for, you know, it's, man, there's, there's college football coaches
1800
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,180
that don't, that can't do that, you know?
1801
02:01:03,180 --> 02:01:07,200
Yeah, but the thing is, like, he's been seeing it since he's five. Yeah.
1802
02:01:07,460 --> 02:01:11,940
And so, like, that goes back to that whole, you know, the influence and the,
1803
02:01:11,940 --> 02:01:15,860
you know, just being around that in the room where they're going to pick up
1804
02:01:15,860 --> 02:01:18,180
on some of those habits just from being in the room.
1805
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:24,040
And, you know, I think that having those boys start to set the example of it
1806
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,640
is, you know, potentially the start of that.
1807
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:30,380
You know, and look, I think he's still a ways away from being able to have a school.
1808
02:01:30,380 --> 02:01:35,920
But I think, you know, if he gets his head set to like, no, I'm going to do
1809
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:37,660
that and he makes it his sole focus,
1810
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:42,020
I think he can be there in another three years, four years, you know,
1811
02:01:42,020 --> 02:01:46,780
um, which is right around that timeframe that I would hope that boys would be
1812
02:01:46,780 --> 02:01:48,280
ready and girls would be ready to shoot for it.
1813
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:53,760
You know, I think, I think he's, he's got one factor that he's, he's got to make sure of.
1814
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:57,980
It's probably the same thing that got me shot in the right direction as far as with, with myself.
1815
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:04,380
So that's still, still yet to be determined, but I think, I think it might be there.
1816
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:10,020
So, yeah, I mean, we'll see in a little while when I, when I go there and we're
1817
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:10,860
going to see how the kids are doing.
1818
02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:16,760
This is a big step. Yeah. So explain what's happening right this second.
1819
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:20,640
So right at this second, so I had, I had to give my phone to the,
1820
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:22,620
to, to the guys earlier so they can plug it up.
1821
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,760
And the reason why I was, cause my wife was texting me, she's like,
1822
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:28,400
Hey, you're going to make it back in time to teach his class. I'm like, I hope so.
1823
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:33,600
I hope so. And you know, I said, well, can you get Ty to bring y'all to the
1824
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,420
gym? I said, Ty, Ty might have to teach.
1825
02:02:37,060 --> 02:02:41,720
And right now it is 429, 431. Shoot. And.
1826
02:02:42,669 --> 02:02:47,449
First class of the day today and it's a four and five-year-old group which he's taught plenty
1827
02:02:47,669 --> 02:02:52,489
times but normally i'm there right so this is a big step yeah so for him it's
1828
02:02:52,489 --> 02:02:58,749
like no you gotta step up now yeah and you think we didn't know that that's what's interesting no.
1829
02:03:00,449 --> 02:03:07,589
No i know exactly that y'all know my schedule but you know he big step yeah
1830
02:03:07,589 --> 02:03:08,729
i think he's gonna be fine.
1831
02:03:08,849 --> 02:03:12,369
It's just him knowing that I'm not going to be there, you know?
1832
02:03:12,409 --> 02:03:15,829
And so, you know, I've been prepping for this anyway.
1833
02:03:16,049 --> 02:03:18,929
You're like, that's part of the reason why I have everything rolled out on a
1834
02:03:18,929 --> 02:03:26,169
curriculum now is because like it needs to get to a point where I can say the
1835
02:03:26,169 --> 02:03:31,509
curriculum is wrote to a point where almost anybody that's been around for a
1836
02:03:31,509 --> 02:03:34,929
while can look at it and say, okay, I do this with the clock.
1837
02:03:35,369 --> 02:03:39,489
This is round one, two, three. And, and you, if you just go by that,
1838
02:03:39,609 --> 02:03:45,389
guys can figure it out because, you know, the reality is like the gym needs to outlast me.
1839
02:03:46,509 --> 02:03:49,729
And it's not like I have a death wish or anything, but, you know,
1840
02:03:49,729 --> 02:03:52,729
realistically, like you need to have procedures wrote out that,
1841
02:03:52,789 --> 02:03:55,049
you know, if you want something to stick out and last,
1842
02:03:55,369 --> 02:03:59,129
you want to invest in something that's, uh, you believe is truly important,
1843
02:03:59,249 --> 02:04:02,669
then you need to make it so that it can work and you
1844
02:04:02,669 --> 02:04:05,709
know how does it work if you're not there you know
1845
02:04:05,709 --> 02:04:08,989
does it fall apart if you're not there or can it last even
1846
02:04:08,989 --> 02:04:13,729
after you're you're you're not around you know and so putting together the curriculum
1847
02:04:13,729 --> 02:04:16,569
like that is hopefully hopefully it's going to work out good enough to where
1848
02:04:16,569 --> 02:04:20,369
you can look at and say okay i can make enough sense of this i've been through
1849
02:04:20,369 --> 02:04:25,489
thousands of classes and i should know how to how to be able to do this you
1850
02:04:25,489 --> 02:04:27,589
know so we'll see in a little bit.
1851
02:04:29,445 --> 02:04:34,045
It'll be interesting. So those four and five-year-olds, about the six to ten
1852
02:04:34,045 --> 02:04:38,365
of them he's going to have, they're going to give him a little bit of something today.
1853
02:04:39,165 --> 02:04:41,185
That four and five-year-old class is rough.
1854
02:04:42,225 --> 02:04:46,385
I haven't seen it many times. It's the worst, dude. I come in at the tail end,
1855
02:04:46,465 --> 02:04:48,545
and I'm usually just smiling.
1856
02:04:49,565 --> 02:04:51,245
It's entertaining, for sure.
1857
02:04:52,505 --> 02:04:57,465
It's funny how they're just a whole different human, man. But it's funny how
1858
02:04:57,465 --> 02:05:01,885
just that one or two years right there makes such a huge difference.
1859
02:05:02,665 --> 02:05:06,145
Because, yeah, the next age class, it's a whole different animal.
1860
02:05:06,325 --> 02:05:09,125
And sugar, too, man. The way sugar makes a difference.
1861
02:05:09,585 --> 02:05:13,785
Some days. Tell which ones had sugar before. Some days, it's phenomenal.
1862
02:05:14,505 --> 02:05:20,745
Dude, it's like I've seen so many different things on the mat.
1863
02:05:21,205 --> 02:05:25,165
Snacks? Dude. What did you have? Fall Out of the Kids, Guy?
1864
02:05:25,485 --> 02:05:31,205
A bunch of stuff peanut peanut butter jelly something like that less jelly,
1865
02:05:32,385 --> 02:05:35,845
just a pb and sandwich some cheez-its
1866
02:05:35,845 --> 02:05:38,485
some some skittles something that starts with
1867
02:05:38,485 --> 02:05:43,905
a p that's happened to tom oh man okay i've had the one of the funniest ones
1868
02:05:43,905 --> 02:05:51,425
is a one of the guys in town he's brings his kid and the kid for whatever reason
1869
02:05:51,425 --> 02:05:56,845
he he had something in his pocket right So I still don't understand how kids do it.
1870
02:05:57,205 --> 02:06:00,025
They'll put their gi pants on over their pants.
1871
02:06:01,965 --> 02:06:06,685
They all are wearing their school uniform under their gi. They got three layers
1872
02:06:06,685 --> 02:06:07,925
of clothes on. It's incredible.
1873
02:06:08,225 --> 02:06:12,325
And they just train like that. It's like, oh, okay. Well, this little dude,
1874
02:06:12,405 --> 02:06:14,285
he has something fall out of his pocket.
1875
02:06:15,365 --> 02:06:21,265
And I didn't see him do it, but Naomi's seen him do it. And so he's got something under his foot.
1876
02:06:21,825 --> 02:06:24,605
And he's doing jumping jacks, but he's only moving one foot, right?
1877
02:06:25,505 --> 02:06:29,325
And he's going through the whole motion. Boy, he's got his arms swinging and
1878
02:06:29,325 --> 02:06:30,785
he's got that one foot moving.
1879
02:06:30,945 --> 02:06:35,525
And I look at him and I'm like, hey, why are you not doing your jumping jacks
1880
02:06:35,525 --> 02:06:37,705
right? And he just doesn't really say anything.
1881
02:06:38,505 --> 02:06:43,345
It's like, okay. So I walk over, I start looking at him and I'm like, hey, move your foot.
1882
02:06:43,805 --> 02:06:47,805
And he moves his foot and he had a whole like Hot Wheels that he brought with
1883
02:06:47,805 --> 02:06:53,345
him in his pocket on the mat and it fell out of his pocket and he's doing jumping
1884
02:06:53,345 --> 02:06:54,385
jacks trying to hide that,
1885
02:06:54,845 --> 02:06:59,645
that stinking toy car i kicked it so far dude it's like it's one of those things
1886
02:06:59,645 --> 02:07:04,225
that's so funny like you can't i try my hardest not to laugh at him because
1887
02:07:04,225 --> 02:07:05,685
it's it's like oh no he knew
1888
02:07:06,125 --> 02:07:11,245
but dude he was trying to hide it the best he could i've seen toy cars i've seen,
1889
02:07:12,385 --> 02:07:18,425
any type of animal cracker or Cheez-It or goldfish.
1890
02:07:18,625 --> 02:07:21,925
Why do you got so much food in their pockets? They hungry, man.
1891
02:07:22,045 --> 02:07:25,805
Who's walking around with food in their pockets? Welch's fruit snacks. Yes.
1892
02:07:27,393 --> 02:07:35,413
I've been thrown up on good had kids pee on the mat with other things you know some some kids it,
1893
02:07:36,273 --> 02:07:39,133
what's funny sometimes kids man like i've had
1894
02:07:39,133 --> 02:07:43,533
two kids pee on the mat right for for two totally different reasons and this
1895
02:07:43,533 --> 02:07:48,153
is the first part the only reason should be that like you know you couldn't
1896
02:07:48,153 --> 02:07:56,893
hold it right oh no oh no no so this is when i started realizing like oh man like okay okay,
1897
02:07:56,913 --> 02:07:59,333
these kids, like you have some influence over the kids,
1898
02:07:59,453 --> 02:08:02,393
but you really need to like watch it.
1899
02:08:02,813 --> 02:08:08,893
And so one kid did not, was just terrified to ask to go to the bathroom,
1900
02:08:09,013 --> 02:08:11,593
like did not want to have to ask.
1901
02:08:11,673 --> 02:08:13,753
Cause she was scared, like scared she was going to get in trouble.
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It's like, I don't know why they would think they're going to get in trouble
1903
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for asking to go to the bathroom. Right. But they're scared.
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Right. So it's like, okay. So instead of asking, she just did the thing.
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And what made it worse is like are you peeing like just go to the bathroom so she
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runs and then she slips and busts her butt on the concrete which made it worse
1907
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she was more embarrassed and it's like okay well that's that's one instance
1908
02:08:40,613 --> 02:08:44,773
so you have a kid not one to ask because they're scared to go like,
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Right. So they don't have the confidence to say, Hey, I need to go pee.
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Right. They just hadn't built that confidence. Nothing wrong with that because
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I've seen grown men do it in bootcamp.
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Yeah. Well, you know, afraid to ask. That's, that's even, that's even better.
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But what happens when they do that? They shouldn't have asked.
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But what happens if they pee on themselves? You should have. Is it worse?
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They don't need to do anything. So, so what would be worse?
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It's peer pressure yeah what would be the worst dealing with the peers or dealing with,
1917
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the other the other guys what's worse like you're in a barracks where you're
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the dude that pissed on himself in formation man there's no way out you know
1919
02:09:26,830 --> 02:09:31,290
there's there's really just no way out might as well just join the air force at that point,
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02:09:33,550 --> 02:09:40,510
and look i have one other girl she uh she knew she had to pee but she was not
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gonna ask Ask because she was not going to do anything that was going to make her miss her stripe.
1922
02:09:47,390 --> 02:09:51,090
Oh, man. That breaks my heart. Hey, just ready. So, dude.
1923
02:09:51,390 --> 02:09:56,130
Ready to get it. So, she did the thing that was like, no, it's going to cost
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me a stripe. I will piss on myself.
1925
02:10:01,650 --> 02:10:05,150
So, there's multiple reasons. She made the right choice, though.
1926
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She definitely got a stripe after. I can tell you that. Striped up.
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Earned that one. Yeah. but nah it's interesting man like you don't realize like
1928
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what kids are thinking or whatever so,
1929
02:10:17,510 --> 02:10:22,870
trying to trying to figure that out is difficult kids can be influenced and
1930
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:27,690
just hope hope my kids are influenced in the right direction yeah well that
1931
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goes back to the whole black belt thing right.
1932
02:10:31,660 --> 02:10:35,760
Influence or a bad influence and if if this
1933
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,480
is what i can say yeah yeah this this might be a good way of getting back around to
1934
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:44,300
that whole question is like i couldn't give a black belt to somebody that i
1935
02:10:44,300 --> 02:10:48,700
wouldn't want my kid learning from because that might be the people that are
1936
02:10:48,700 --> 02:10:55,380
teaching my grandkids or my great-grandkids that's deep so yeah like why would
1937
02:10:55,380 --> 02:10:57,500
you give that to why would
1938
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,460
you give somebody that type of authority if you wouldn't trust them with your
1939
02:11:00,460 --> 02:11:04,580
loved ones so yeah that i've been thinking about it enough that's probably my
1940
02:11:04,580 --> 02:11:09,760
answer that's a long way to find that answer yeah plus they need to know something
1941
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,140
about jiu-jitsu man speaking of grandkids,
1942
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:18,760
don't look at me like that speaking of grandkids let's just play this pretend
1943
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:24,200
that you have a grandson or a granddaughter one day and they're listening to this,
1944
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:30,260
out of the whole, out of this whole conversation, the martial arts,
1945
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:34,820
the jiu-jitsu, the leadership, the business,
1946
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,940
what's something they should go back and listen to?
1947
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:41,740
What do you mean as far as go back and listen to?
1948
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:46,780
Where at in our conversation do you think is the most important information?
1949
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:51,920
I mean, by my calculations, you're
1950
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:54,680
trying to get me to remember about two and a half hours worth of
1951
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:57,460
things that were say just make up something new there
1952
02:11:57,460 --> 02:12:01,440
i would say yeah follow
1953
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:07,500
the i wills and then apply it to something that you like something that you
1954
02:12:07,500 --> 02:12:12,020
enjoy and then keep doing that day in and day out i think if they follow that
1955
02:12:12,020 --> 02:12:15,300
type of path it's going to shoot them in the right right direction for success
1956
02:12:15,300 --> 02:12:19,240
and i wouldn't have kids say it every day if i didn't think it It was true, you know?
1957
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:24,700
So I think, I think whether they're five, 20, 25, 30, whatever,
1958
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:28,480
like if they just apply those things to themselves a day in and day out,
1959
02:12:28,540 --> 02:12:31,960
they're going to find something they like and they're going to find some sort of happiness.
1960
02:12:32,580 --> 02:12:35,080
And that roadmap's there for them. Yeah.
1961
02:12:36,369 --> 02:12:40,089
Up man my answer might change in another 10 years but i think
1962
02:12:40,089 --> 02:12:42,849
it shoots everybody in the right direction i believe you know because
1963
02:12:42,849 --> 02:12:45,889
you know that's kind of i think
1964
02:12:45,889 --> 02:12:49,089
it just sets a good framework i think kind of sets a good framework for for
1965
02:12:49,089 --> 02:12:56,229
success and i think sex success is you can't be successful unless you're have
1966
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:59,449
a certain level of happiness in your life you know you could be a billionaire
1967
02:12:59,449 --> 02:13:03,769
and be unsuccessful if you're you know drowning yourself in pills day in and
1968
02:13:03,769 --> 02:13:08,129
day out and you don't have anybody that wants to be around you you know you don't know what love is,
1969
02:13:08,609 --> 02:13:12,149
like that's not success so all of
1970
02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:15,669
that is uh tied to happiness and yeah
1971
02:13:15,669 --> 02:13:18,889
i wouldn't want them to pursue happiness because if
1972
02:13:18,889 --> 02:13:22,189
they're doing that then at least at
1973
02:13:22,189 --> 02:13:26,329
least you know they're putting something something good in the world right so
1974
02:13:26,329 --> 02:13:30,009
i would hope i would hope that they do that and then
1975
02:13:30,009 --> 02:13:33,049
yeah tune in 10 years from now maybe we
1976
02:13:33,049 --> 02:13:35,769
do another one so i i love the
1977
02:13:35,769 --> 02:13:38,709
i wills and and they kind of remind me
1978
02:13:38,709 --> 02:13:42,769
of like a vision or a mission statement for like you know for a business and
1979
02:13:42,769 --> 02:13:48,149
it's there's a reason that that people do that and it's i think it's great yeah
1980
02:13:48,149 --> 02:13:52,009
you know another thing i've been tossing around with the kids i'm not sure if
1981
02:13:52,009 --> 02:13:55,309
i'm gonna do it or not i have I have no reason not to. I just want to make sure
1982
02:13:55,309 --> 02:13:56,649
it's the right thing to do.
1983
02:13:57,269 --> 02:14:02,029
And like, I would, I would actually love to hear what you guys think about it,
1984
02:14:02,089 --> 02:14:06,209
but I've been very much debating on having them say the pledge before every class too.
1985
02:14:07,629 --> 02:14:11,469
And see, what does that do? Like, I don't even know if they say it in schools
1986
02:14:11,469 --> 02:14:15,569
that much anymore. I think Ty told me at Thibodeau high, they still did it every morning.
1987
02:14:16,869 --> 02:14:19,689
But is that something that should be there?
1988
02:14:20,169 --> 02:14:23,469
Or is it just one of those things where it's like the high world,
1989
02:14:23,549 --> 02:14:29,229
are good enough saying the pledge may or may not be needed but i don't think
1990
02:14:29,229 --> 02:14:33,029
it would hurt man i think it's one of those things that being a business owner
1991
02:14:33,029 --> 02:14:35,149
it's a it's a it's a luxury that,
1992
02:14:35,669 --> 02:14:40,729
that you've earned you get to you get to make the decision you know and if someone
1993
02:14:40,729 --> 02:14:45,549
doesn't like it and that's why they choose to go to a school that doesn't say
1994
02:14:45,549 --> 02:14:49,129
the pledge then happy on them yeah Yeah, but that's also the thing,
1995
02:14:49,129 --> 02:14:50,609
too. I can't go there and say, you know, pledge.
1996
02:14:51,309 --> 02:14:54,429
Yeah, well, look, we're at that point now. That might be a thing,
1997
02:14:54,469 --> 02:14:57,589
you know. Yeah. But I also think that's a way to separate the people.
1998
02:14:57,809 --> 02:15:02,249
You get the right people, right? And I think getting to the point where it's
1999
02:15:02,249 --> 02:15:06,869
like, no, I don't think I have to worry about the gym surviving anymore.
2000
02:15:06,989 --> 02:15:07,809
I think it's going to be okay.
2001
02:15:08,349 --> 02:15:12,149
But I also want to make sure that it's something that, you know,
2002
02:15:12,169 --> 02:15:14,109
you guys know how I try to do certain things.
2003
02:15:14,169 --> 02:15:17,249
And when it comes to promotions, I was actually just having this talk yesterday.
2004
02:15:17,709 --> 02:15:19,429
With a couple of guys after class. Like.
2005
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:24,740
Sure that i rely on the important people
2006
02:15:24,740 --> 02:15:27,920
that have played a role and been around since the beginning think certain
2007
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:30,840
things are a good idea before any major things are
2008
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:33,900
changed and i wouldn't think that y'all would think it's a bad idea but
2009
02:15:33,900 --> 02:15:37,180
i'm wondering if it could be one of those things that people are like i
2010
02:15:37,180 --> 02:15:40,040
don't know if you need to you know yeah it could you
2011
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:43,200
could do it you could not not not really that big of a deal it means
2012
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:46,020
a lot to me like i know you say it almost every time every
2013
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:48,900
time you give a belt out for sure you say it
2014
02:15:48,900 --> 02:15:51,700
and you you let everyone
2015
02:15:51,700 --> 02:15:54,620
know that hey this isn't just this isn't just what I
2016
02:15:54,620 --> 02:15:57,380
think you you know you know to
2017
02:15:57,380 --> 02:16:03,100
have a guy get his blue belt and he knows hey no I asked Bo I asked Jonah all
2018
02:16:03,100 --> 02:16:10,360
the guys they all said go ahead like he's ready you know that's an extra that's
2019
02:16:10,360 --> 02:16:15,780
an extra confidence thing and kind of gets them you know started on on that next journey for them,
2020
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:19,720
you know, definitely means a lot to hear.
2021
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:24,380
I don't, I don't know if it's, it's needed, but I know for sure I would like
2022
02:16:24,380 --> 02:16:26,880
to hear, you know, I'd like to hear that the guys I look up to,
2023
02:16:26,980 --> 02:16:32,520
they're also, it's like, no, I feel, I feel, I can feel confident because I don't, I don't feel,
2024
02:16:32,660 --> 02:16:36,880
you know, kind of delay that, that imposter syndrome, you know? Right.
2025
02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:40,220
No, it's true. That's actually one of the reasons that I
2026
02:16:40,220 --> 02:16:42,980
was glad that Dave was there for my black
2027
02:16:42,980 --> 02:16:46,040
belt promotion was just because like you're my
2028
02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:49,340
friend and i don't i know you know what a boat looks
2029
02:16:49,340 --> 02:16:53,120
like but i don't want it i don't want to feel like it's you
2030
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:57,180
know yeah whatever i'm trying to say yeah well i mean that that's you know to
2031
02:16:57,180 --> 02:17:03,360
have that son you know with him it's yeah he's got a long reputation in that
2032
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,300
community and like i know i
2033
02:17:05,300 --> 02:17:09,920
was okayed by him so i had to go through three people pretty much, right?
2034
02:17:09,980 --> 02:17:15,280
So it was Waffle first, then Waffle sent me to Brian, and then Waffle sent me to Dave.
2035
02:17:17,752 --> 02:17:21,312
Necessarily has to do all of those you know i think i think it could be a bit
2036
02:17:21,312 --> 02:17:24,912
overboard but i understand what waffle did it like he was very unsure on whether
2037
02:17:24,912 --> 02:17:31,012
or not to to pull the trigger on that but i do still think it's important for
2038
02:17:31,012 --> 02:17:34,392
our guys to have exposure to those individuals,
2039
02:17:35,132 --> 02:17:39,512
that may change in the future as far as how many of those guys but you know
2040
02:17:39,512 --> 02:17:47,012
knowing that like i I know what Dave's guys in general have felt like when I go there and train.
2041
02:17:48,792 --> 02:17:53,172
And that's why I was confident as far as on the mat with Bo.
2042
02:17:54,292 --> 02:17:59,892
Like I've trained with enough of them, you know, and there's, I know how people feel.
2043
02:18:00,472 --> 02:18:05,412
Because a lot of times guys can think that, you know, you're sitting there and
2044
02:18:05,412 --> 02:18:06,512
you're rolling to try to beat them.
2045
02:18:06,572 --> 02:18:09,292
Like I'm rolling with a lot of guys over there, not necessarily,
2046
02:18:09,332 --> 02:18:10,732
you know, the time that I would go train.
2047
02:18:11,352 --> 02:18:14,732
Wasn't necessarily to prove a point you know like when i got
2048
02:18:14,732 --> 02:18:18,132
sent there as a brown belt it was to prove a point so i
2049
02:18:18,132 --> 02:18:20,992
wanted to make sure that i i deserved the respect
2050
02:18:20,992 --> 02:18:26,672
of him saying yes or no to that and from what i understand it was like waffle
2051
02:18:26,672 --> 02:18:31,052
was told yes give him his black belt like two thumbs up like do you need to
2052
02:18:31,052 --> 02:18:34,392
do it so after knowing that and then training with some of the other guys that
2053
02:18:34,392 --> 02:18:38,712
was in the room i was like okay there's a there's a there's a difference between all of these guys,
2054
02:18:38,832 --> 02:18:43,352
but it'd be foolish of me to think that, you know, one guy that gave me a really
2055
02:18:43,352 --> 02:18:47,272
hard time and the other guy that maybe wasn't the same as that,
2056
02:18:47,312 --> 02:18:49,432
that one deserved it more than the other.
2057
02:18:49,492 --> 02:18:53,052
It's like, no, he gave that to those guys for a certain reason.
2058
02:18:53,212 --> 02:18:56,292
And that person has something that they can pass on. That's,
2059
02:18:56,292 --> 02:19:00,472
that's worth other individuals listening to when they're on the mat.
2060
02:19:00,872 --> 02:19:04,172
And, you know, I'll always remember that, you know, because,
2061
02:19:04,272 --> 02:19:06,272
you know, even training with Waffle, right?
2062
02:19:06,332 --> 02:19:11,652
Like Waffle's 50, I think he's 52, 51 or 52 now.
2063
02:19:12,692 --> 02:19:18,732
It's like, if, if I would take, you know, 28 year old me rolling with 52 year old Waffle,
2064
02:19:19,292 --> 02:19:24,032
and think that there was nothing to gain from learning from that guy because
2065
02:19:24,032 --> 02:19:26,512
of the way he may or may not be on the mat these days, you know,
2066
02:19:26,552 --> 02:19:28,312
that'd be so foolish of me.
2067
02:19:28,832 --> 02:19:34,272
And And when somebody gets to a certain point where they know,
2068
02:19:34,412 --> 02:19:40,752
yes, they understand this and this and this, it's like, okay, good.
2069
02:19:41,192 --> 02:19:44,652
You know, you're going to run into guys that you can wipe the floor with that
2070
02:19:44,652 --> 02:19:47,472
are black belts when you're a purple belt, you know, and then you're going to
2071
02:19:47,472 --> 02:19:51,552
run into other guys that you're going to get your black belt and you're going
2072
02:19:51,552 --> 02:19:54,352
to be better than a lot of the other dudes you train with.
2073
02:19:54,452 --> 02:19:58,512
And you're going to have dudes that just beat the snot out of you and there's
2074
02:19:58,512 --> 02:20:02,532
nothing you you can do about it, but that doesn't mean that you're not deserving of that rank.
2075
02:20:02,652 --> 02:20:07,692
You know, it's just understanding that what is your niche and what are you good
2076
02:20:07,692 --> 02:20:12,172
at and then making sure that you stay to those strengths and try not to deviate
2077
02:20:12,172 --> 02:20:14,212
too far from it because, you know.
2078
02:20:15,467 --> 02:20:17,967
Why would you you know and that's one thing we're learning about in jujitsu
2079
02:20:17,967 --> 02:20:20,947
is like when you're training you're playing around you'll do stupid stuff but
2080
02:20:20,947 --> 02:20:23,707
if you need to have a hard role like you're going to do the stuff you're good
2081
02:20:23,707 --> 02:20:26,647
at you're not going to try to mess around the things that you know could get
2082
02:20:26,647 --> 02:20:31,487
you in trouble so why would you why would you try to shift any of that over to,
2083
02:20:32,067 --> 02:20:34,947
to people to shoot them in the wrong direction you know
2084
02:20:34,947 --> 02:20:37,907
that's that's part of the reason why i try to stick to fundamentals now more than
2085
02:20:37,907 --> 02:20:41,347
anything else and try not to teach too much of the stuff that i think is stupid and
2086
02:20:41,347 --> 02:20:44,027
if i do teach it i'll tell people like hey look you might see me
2087
02:20:44,027 --> 02:20:46,727
you do it but it's still kind of dumb or it's it's flat out
2088
02:20:46,727 --> 02:20:49,587
stupid but it's fun you know like doing stupid
2089
02:20:49,587 --> 02:20:52,307
stuff sometimes it's fun but it might not be what you want
2090
02:20:52,307 --> 02:20:57,107
to do if somebody's trying to like you know punch you in the face like probably
2091
02:20:57,107 --> 02:21:02,307
not gonna want to pull you know x guard when somebody's trying to hit you with
2092
02:21:02,307 --> 02:21:08,047
a bat you know but if that's all you know and it's all you know haters gonna
2093
02:21:08,047 --> 02:21:11,047
hate yeah until they get hit in the face with a bat.
2094
02:21:12,747 --> 02:21:15,427
Hey man i'm telling you i was training with
2095
02:21:15,427 --> 02:21:18,327
brendan savann before he got his chance
2096
02:21:18,327 --> 02:21:21,087
to go to the ultimate fighter and i remember thinking ah you
2097
02:21:21,087 --> 02:21:24,347
know i'm gonna i'm gonna try doing some
2098
02:21:24,347 --> 02:21:30,427
of this guard stuff and see how it goes when when he's got gloves on and did
2099
02:21:30,427 --> 02:21:33,987
x guard and i'm like let me see if i can sweep him and after i got punched in
2100
02:21:33,987 --> 02:21:38,327
the face multiple times it's like okay i'm not doing that again like i'm not
2101
02:21:38,327 --> 02:21:41,807
gonna get good enough at x guard to stop him from punching me in the face. It's a bad idea.
2102
02:21:42,367 --> 02:21:44,407
So that's, that's why I don't even teach it in curriculum anymore.
2103
02:21:44,547 --> 02:21:47,267
I mean, I'll show it here and there if people ask about it specifically,
2104
02:21:47,967 --> 02:21:50,507
but it's not something that I have in curriculum because it's gonna,
2105
02:21:51,167 --> 02:21:54,887
it's kind of one of those, one of those things that you can get really good
2106
02:21:54,887 --> 02:21:57,307
at it and it's fun, but it could cost you.
2107
02:21:57,567 --> 02:22:00,307
So it's more like what they call it a novelty item, you know.
2108
02:22:01,459 --> 02:22:04,599
With for sport so you don't
2109
02:22:04,599 --> 02:22:08,259
have to know x square to get a black belt good because i
2110
02:22:08,259 --> 02:22:12,259
don't know it i was gonna ask all right
2111
02:22:12,259 --> 02:22:14,999
guys any any closings this was
2112
02:22:14,999 --> 02:22:18,079
awesome yeah this is really really good i'm sure
2113
02:22:18,079 --> 02:22:21,719
we can i'm sure we can go for three more hours i
2114
02:22:21,719 --> 02:22:25,959
mean look i still got uh i still got time i guess ty's
2115
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good naomi says uh so far so good you'll be
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here for the second kid class question it's like just i
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could just turn your phone off that's what that's my advice i'll just
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tell the phone today yeah but text
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it to her so she knows new phone who does oh man
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all right guys this is good let's do it again and
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we'll maybe just kind of narrow in on a topic next
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time and maybe do like a q a or something that would
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be cool have guys from the gym or for from
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wherever ever maybe submit some questions there's plenty
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plenty left to learn here and plenty of ideas to
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dig into oh dude i'm sure like there'll be
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a lot of overlap and a lot of things with some of the guests you have planned
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um i'm looking forward to to hearing from some of the some of the more recent
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guys you've been exposed to that that you'll have on it's gonna be really cool
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to to hear those different perspectives you know like when you started talking
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earlier about you know You've got this guy that's been doing this for so many
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years and you just started.
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You've definitely created a solid network of individuals to hear things from.
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It's going to be really, really cool to tune into some future episodes because
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you've got a wide range of things that you are interested in.
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I don't know. Shane Thibodeau might be the next Joe Rogan individual that everybody's
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like, oh, no, Joe Rogan plays pool.
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He does jujitsu. Yeah, but is he on the Miracles and Meat podcast?
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No, not irrelevant. No, not yet. Not yet.
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Yeah, I don't know. Kind of got some big plans, and I hope we can see him through.
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Want to do this again with you and make different um
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combos of individuals to get on.
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Music.
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And see what we can say anytime all
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right appreciate y'all later later all right that's it for this episode of the
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little goose pimples, or just gave you some feel goods, um,
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hearing who else is out there and what kind of cool stories we might share.
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Music.
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